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Hello,
For the past few months I have been receiving spam from info@xxxx.yyyy.zzzz where x y and z are always different. I have tried to set a filter to move anything with from containing 'info' or 'info@' to the spam folder but these filters have not worked at all. Is anyone else having this problem? Any suggestions for filtering these messages? Its particularly annoying because these messages take 20-30 seconds to delete on my iPAD.
Thanks
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Use an email client and use its spam filtering capabilities.
In short, don't rely soley on Vz's SpamDetector.
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Thank you for your reply.
I do use an email client on my PC however there is no such option with email on the iPad. For some reason, these emails take a very long time to delete on the iPad.
Filtering all messages from info@blah.blah.blah into the spam folder would seem to be very straight forward however Verizon's filter feature simply does not appear to work.
-T
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The iPad is nolthing but a glorified Content Viewer.
On a desktop or notebook computer you may call it an application on the iPad you may call it an "app" but it all boiuld down to obtaining the right software for the need. In the case of an iPad, you shouldn't be using as a Primary System for accessing email. Just like I have challenged many to write a thesis on "writing a thesis on an iPad". It isn't the proper "platform" for Word Processing and it is not the best platform for accessing one's email.
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Thank you once again Dave for your informative reply.
With all due respect however, you opinion about what is a suitable platform for receiving email or your feelings about iPads in general is not relevant. I understand very well the limitations of using a tablet as an email client but I also expect Verizon's email filtering feature to work as advertised.
The question I put to the forum is simply this; are others receiving these types of spam messages and has anyone successfully used the filtering feature to steer these messages to the trash thus avoiding having to download them from the server.
-T
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May I then suggest that you find a more appropriate email app.
Verizon does NOT advertise 100% spam detection and removal and it shouldn't be construed that Verizon or any other service provider can.
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Well Dave, you seem to be missing the point...again.
I am not suggesting that Verizon or any one else can magicly detect and clean all the spam I receive. I am simply wondering why a straight forward filter to move any message that contains the word 'info' in the 'from' field to the spam or trash folder does not work. Verizon does, in fact, advertise that such a filter should work. Is that really too much to ask?
-T
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To answer that, we's have to see the Raw Full Header of the email such that we can see the raw, not interpreted, text in the "From:" field in the Header.
Then we need to know the methodology you are using to "Delete" or "Move messages to folder XXXXX" and what you used such as "Contains" or "Matches" for the text.
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The methodology is to set the 'From contains info' in a user defined Spam Detector Filter. Perhaps the From field has be obfuscated in some way that prevents the filter from detecting the word info? Maybe they are parsing the Sender field instead of the From field?
Here is the header with my email xxxx'd out.
Return-path: <info@513363743129140698.spacetrunk.com>
Return-path: <info@96731516432423389.spacetrunk.com>
Received: from 96731516432423389.spacetrunk.com ([unknown] [198.20.70.162])
by vms172079.mailsrvcs.net
(Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009))
with SMTP id <0ME1005DS9508Q80@vms172079.mailsrvcs.net> for
xxxxxxxx@verizon.net; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 01:36:46 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:33:35 -0600
Sun-Java-System-SMTP-Warning: Lines longer than SMTP allows found and wrapped.
From: info@513363743129140698.spacetrunk.com
Subject: Pay one price and get it all with an all-inclusive vacation
In-reply-to: <info@96731516432423389.spacetrunk.com>
X-Originating-IP: [198.20.70.162]
Sender: "All Inclusive Vacation"
<info@hzjkg.urfussqc.qfqwrkwd.96731516432423389.spacetrunk.com>
To: xxxxxxxxx@verizon.net
Message-id: <hzjkgfiwohrep>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/html
Content-language: en-us
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
Original-recipient: rfc822;xxxxxxxxx@verizon.net
-T
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Go to Webmail...
1. Settings --> email settings --> filters --> Add New Filter
If From Contains spacetrunk.com delete
Click on "Save"
2. Settings --> email settings --> Blocking
"Block this email address:" spacetrunk.com
Click on "Add"
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And email client could have a rule created such as;
If Header Contains spacetrunk.com delete
or
If Header Contains info@*spacetrunk.com delete
Where; * is a Regular Expression which means any number of characters. Webmail doesn't support Regular Expressions (aka; RegEx)
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The problem is that in this example the domain is spacetrunk.com but this changes as well. e.g. wingtip.com or many other stupid names. the only consistent part of the address is info@. So I did the following which doesnt work.
1. Settings --> email settings --> filters --> Add New Filter
If From Contains info delete
Click on "Save"
Yes, regular expressions would be nice. Still it seems like a simple filter that Verizon's system should handle.
-T
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I am not sure that the Webmail filters for the "From:" field works on the email address rather on the name associated with the email address. There are two parts to the field. The email address and the text associted to that address. Example:
"Mr. Joe E. Public" <Joe.e.public@domain.net.invalid>
So Webmail filters may work on what's with the paired double quotes ("") but not what's in the brackets (<>) which are the delimeters of the field sub-types.
Therefore the rules...
If From Contains Joe E. Public delete <--- works
How exactly it works is a mystery but we knolw there are limitations.
The Blocking ability will work on an email address or just a Domain. However these lists are limited in scope, capabilities and total number of rules. Thus we are back at an email client to handle it. I consider the filters on Webmail ONLY a first line of defense and only for simple rules like...
If Subject Contains Viagra delete
If From Contains Cialis delete
But I have more complex rules in my email client. My client of choice is Pegasus Mail and it has several layers of spam filtering from White and Black listing, a bayesian spam filter which "learns", POP3 filtering (if a rule is met the email is deleted from server and is never downloaded) and regular expressions. It can work on text within the headers and text just in the body or text in both the header and body.
When dealing with such spam as you have that eminate from a info@*.com email address it can be handled by an email client that uses Regular Expressions (RegEx). it can be used such as...
If Header contains "*info@*.com*" Delete
Other common cdenominatos of this "spam family" could also be determined and acted upon. the question is can it be done with the super simplistic capabilities of Webmails filters and the answer is most likely probably not.
I once had a problem where the spam was always sent from an IP address from within the IP Range 46.102.176.0 - 46.102.191.255 [ Iasi Romania ] . I used a set of rules using RegEx that completely mitigated these messages.
Which covers the IP range of Iasi Romania.
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Try this....get a gmail account...set gmail email filters...forward all email from verizon to gmail....stop using verizon for your email readers
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It's ridiculous that Verizon's spam filtering works much worse than the spam detection in a free e-mail client like Thunderbird. I get a lot of spam that is not detected by Verizon, but Thunderbird catches it. However as the original poster mentioned, filtering in a client on a PC does not help when reading mail on an iPad.
We are paying Verizon so much money every month, why can't they buy better spam filtering? How come a free program like Thunderbird can do such a better job of spam filtering?
