What 4G bands does Verizon/Visible use?

Hello. I'm interested in purchasing one of those rugged phones. Particularly the Doogee V40 Pro. Now, I'm already aware of the network compatibility mess I'm getting into, but I've done my homework... More than any sane person would. I didn't find the bands on the Doogee website, but did send them an email at the time of this inquiry, and I'll update this when it comes in. However, according to Kimovil (a popular & detailed network compatibility site) the supported 5G bands are n2 (1900 PCS), n5 (850), n66 (1700), n77 (3700), n260 (mmWave 39 GHz), and n261 (mmWave 28 GHz). And 4G bands of B2 (1900), B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1), B5 (850), B13 (700), B48 (TDD 3600), and B66 (1700/2100).

Now, according to Kimovil & Verizon, Verizon supports 1 of those 5G bands on the phone; n77 (3700), and 4 of the 4G bands; B2, B4, B5, and B66. The reason I still am looking for answers about what bands Verizon uses is simply because I can't find authentic reliable references to what 4G bands Verizon uses. There's a lot of talk on forums like Reddit that approach or somewhat give some details on it, but no one seems to answer the question whole thorough facts & based on real information. So far I did find a place in a draw down tab on Verizon's website with the supported 5G bands. There's 1 5G band that matches, n77. That band is a middle band that is designed for a balanced speed & range ratio, but the other bands n260 & n261 are more tuned for speed in more dense areas, 2 bands which the phone (according to Kimovil) doesn't support, which is fine with me. But I could not find any links or verified information from Verizon or it's representatives what 4G bands they support. I did download an app that gets into the technical information about my network on my phone that is currently with Visible/Verizon, and where i am now it does say I'm connected to the 4G B5 band, and I saw that the app also identified other neighboring networks on the B4, and B2 bands, 4G or 5G I'm not sure. But it seems to me things are lining up okay so far.

Yes, I know Verizon will say my phone is not compatible with the Doogee phone, a thousand times, i KNOW. I have done this before, and it was worth doing. One day i simply just transferred my sim over to my rugged phone Umidigi Bison Pro from a standard phone on straight talk, and it just simply kicked in and worked. I think the reason why is because sim cards are nothing but preprogrammed carrier settings with your phone number on it. I don't deny certain possible technical issues that can occur between the phone's software, and the sim card. The way they talk to each other may be slightly incompatible when the sim card was intended to work with a different phone's software. But according to Doogee, the V40 Pro is compatible with Verizon, so they say. But Verizon's website says otherwise ONLY because Verizon hasn't tested, verified, and listed the phone, that's why everyone in Verizon will refuse to activate it because the real reason they can't is because the screen on their computer just tells them what Verizon already is used to having on their network. But by switching over the sim card it bypasses that issue & as long as enough between the sim card & the phone's software is happy with each other it'll click in, that's what I theorize anyhow. However, Verizon will not be able to identify the device afterwards, but that doesn't matter, at least, it didn't matter to straight talk. Lol But yeah. So, if anyone can help me complete insane quest for answers about what 4G bands Verizon uses that'll be great! And no, please don't give me references to third party sources, unless they're made by people who know for certain maybe because they've worked for Verizon or something like that. And no don't encourage me to try something else. I'm stubborn and i like it just fine. Lol

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SynthpopAddict

I don't know what 4G LTE bands Verizon uses, but the 5G bands I've seen mentioned as used by Verizon in these forums are n77 (mid-band 5G) and n260/n261 (high-band 5G). If your sources say the Doogee phone supports those, then at least your 5G service will work. However, moving an old SIM card from one phone to another is no longer supported by Verizon and may even "break" the new phone, as one user reported last year that trying that created a huge mess with bricking a new phone.

I know you mentioned you didn't want any 3rd party sites, but wanted to mention that whenever I've looked up phone specs online, GSM Arena is a good site for that.

Floyd_E626

I heed your warning. I guess the reason why i was so strong on making Verizon work on a new phone is simply because I'm trying to escape the expensive costs of having a plan with T-Mobile (a carrier that is known to activate some of these rugged phones). They want like 70 dollars a month for just what Visible offers for 45. It's not right. I'd be willing to switch carriers if it means not getting less than good service in order to use a phone like this. Also, Doogee did get back to me. They confirmed that the bands are compatible with Verizon. But Verizon hasn't approved Doogee, not because it hasn't been verified, or because they think it won't work, but simply because they haven't looked into it. It's like this phone is ready to use their service, and while Verizon frequencies are compatible, Verizon hasn't whitelisted them yet, making it impossible for representatives to process the activation. That's why i considered just switching a sim card over. But if the software is gonna break, i wouldn't want that. Any suggestions?

SynthpopAddict

You're welcome. To provide a little more input:

Every carrier uses their own SIM cards, so you cannot port your number to another carrier and use your old carrier's SIM card because that SIM is tied to your old carrier.
Verizon does not support moving a Verizon SIM card from an old phone to a new one anymore. All bets are off as to whether or not the new phone will work if you try it. However, physical SIM cards are free at all corporate Verizon stores, so it's not too difficult to get a new SIM card when you get a new phone (I believe you can also get a SIM card mailed to you). 3rd party stores are not included and may not even stock Verizon SIM cards based upon posts I've read in the forums.
Many phones now support eSIM, so oftentimes it's possible to simply download an eSIM when activating a new phone.
I don't remember now the exact specs that GSM Arena was showing for the Doogee phone, but if it is capable of dual SIM/eSIM where you can have your current phone number with your current carrier and run a second number on an eSIM, then you can try Verizon's free 30 day trial (do a search on the Verizon website for "free trial" and details should come up).
Last but not least: It has been my own experience that cell phone service is like many other things in life where you usually get what you pay for. While Visible is wholly owned by Verizon and is operated under the prepaid side of the company, the reason why prepaid mobile service is cheaper than postpaid with any of the "Big 3" is because you are subject to increased deprioritization on the towers. Customers using a 3rd party MVNO (mobile virtual network operator) - where the carrier is not owned by one of the "Big 3" and is renting network space from one or more of the "Big 3" - will have the lowest tower priority of all. If you don't use your phone much or you can easily access WiFi all the time, then being prepaid or using a budget carrier does save you money. But if you use your phone for everything, then it's going to be annoying when your phone doesn't get to connect to the closest towers, or when the network is congested, your data speeds may be so slow as to be unusable.