I have had my revolution since the first week of june its been now about 4 or 5 months and this phone one day decides to go nuts. all i did was turn it off then when i tried to turn it back on it would boot only to the lg logo then restart and it would stay looping like this till the battery was all drained out. i love this phone but now i have to get the referbished replacment for this phone and i think that that is bull**bleep** since i had nothing to do with my phone going bad. Im reading alot of comments about this phone and lg has got to put a mager update to fix alot of these problems, how can you have so many phones going bad, this phone would def be in my top 5 choice if it wasnt for all the bugs. LG you are a giant corporation stop laying there and do something about these mess ups. Im getting my new phone this week and i swear if this phone goes crazy on me for no reason imma flip a switch. Anyway i was just woundering how many people are having the same problem. ( oooooo yea i tried to do a hard reset cant even do that the phone is done cant do nothing with it. )