I posted this in the Motorola forums also and now that I can finally post in the Verizon forums, I’m posting it here too.
This phone (Droid Bionic) worked perfectly the first 14 days accept for one glitch where it toggled to 3G while in the same place and I called into Verizon and they said to take out the battery and SIM card and restart it and it seemed to work fine for the next few days, until the 15th day, past the return point. I wonder, do these companies try to stall us past the 14th return policy so they can lock us into new contracts and equipment?
Now after the 14th day the phone toggles from 3-4G all the time no matter where I am and disconnects me from the internet with I get an email notification. I call Verizon on the 16th day and they give me the canned rhetoric about the 14 day policy and that they will send me a replacement BUT can’t guarantee that it will be new, more likely it will be refurbished. WHAT THE ****. I just paid for a NEW phone not a used one and within 30 days they want to send me a used one…NO WAY IN HELL is that acceptable. The car lemon laws are better…you get a new one.
Well guess what, they tell me that THEY and Motorola are the ones that made these policies…SO, I’m here to ask everyone else that is also fed up with this **bleep** to lobby, boycott, raise hell if you have to, to get these **bleep** policies changed to at least 30 days, like any other product we buy in the USA.
It’s real interesting that the phone worked fine for 14 days and then it went to crap. If I want 3G I have the HTC Imagio that worked fine for many years and was still working fine when I got the Droid Bionic, I don’t need a new phone to get 3G. I think the manufacturer and Verizon are in this together, knowing that their products are built like {word filter avoidance} and won’t last past 14 days, thus the policy.
After 15 days of gripping to Verizon, they are having me purchase a new Droid Bionic (so I don’t have to get a used one) and will re-start my contract for 2 years, then when I send the crap droid back to them they will credit my account…this is doable, ONLY IF the new phone works. But it is a {word filter avoidance} hassle. We are the consumer buying YOUR product, we should be treated better.
According to Verizon, Motorola is coming out with a patch or software upgrade…sometime in Nov. that is supposed to FIX this **bleep** service.
Well Motorola, if it doesn’t, I’ll be under a new 14 day return policy until the last day of Nov. and if the “Fix” doesn’t work, I’m taking this worthless piece of crap back to Verizon and I’m going back to my 3G HTC.
You Manufactures need to get it right, OUT OF THE BOX, not have the consumer pay for the product, give them only 14 days and then have them locked into a 2 year contact then you fix the problems. That’s BULL**bleep**. And I hope others will join me in lobbying,, call your local TV news channel, boycotting and if we have to, raise hell with all these companies, like you, Verizon and all the other phone service and phone making companies to change the 14 day return policy like Srpint and AT&T...as the Verizon rep stated about thier 14 day policy.
If you don’t change your policies, when and IF I buy another product from Verizon, if it glitches even the slightest, instead of calling in for help and getting the stall tactic rhetoric of restarting this and pulling out that to make it work right to stall me past the 14 days, I’ll send the **bleep** thing back 50 times if that what it takes to get a product that works so I don’t get locked into the purchase or the contact if I can’t get something that works.
I am furious and I’m not going to stop raising hell until you and companies like you start taking better care of consumers like me that spend their money on YOUR products.
If this next phone I get doesn’t work I’m going back to my HTC 3G. And I’m not done with you people. I’m going to do whatever it takes though legal means to see to it that you and companies like you change your **bleep** policies and stall tactics to keep us locked into products that are crap.
And another note to add: In talking with some of the reps at Verizon, when I ask that an email be sent to me to verify the conversation and I get: “Well we can’t do that”, you are lying. I did have one of your reps send me an email. The fact that you won’t tells me that you are trying to keep our conversation off the record so it won’t come back and bit you in the behind later. Your big company with all its technology can’t send an email…{word filter avoidance}. Its not going to stop me from waging legal war on you for the crap you put us through.
This was my 2nd post on the Moto forum:
I have spoken with someone at Motorola and they invited me to send in my phone to them and then 5-7 business days after they receive it they would send it back fixed or replace it. However, they would not send me a loaner phone and referred me back to Verizon for that…NOT going to happen.
We the people made these companies successful and pay them good money for their products; they need to treat us better when it is THERE product that doesn’t work properly.
I also addressed the update issue with the person from Moto, they couldn’t tell me what issues it will address or when it would be released, only that it’s going to happen sometime in Nov.
That is why I say this: If it doesn’t work right out of the box and there is 1, even 1 minimal hick up, I’m sending it back 50 times if I have to within the 14 days and I’ll keep doing it until I get one that works or finally get fed up with crappy equipment and go back to my 3G HTC and to hell with Verizon’s contract and Moto’s equipment.
Also I have learned talking with the person at Moto that it is ONLY Verizon that has set the 14 day policy and has nothing to do with Moto. Another bit of incorrect info I got from Verizon, and I quote: “We have to abide by the manufactures policies they set and we cannot change the 14 day policy…OK so who’s lying here, Verizon or Moto?
Doesn’t really matter, we the people need to take action and put a stop to this outrageous **bleep**. How? By sending these **bleep** things back the minute they don’t work, within the 14 days unless they change it to longer, like at least 30 days and don't let them stall us with their **bleep** over the phone.
And two, if we do have a glitch that we have to call in about because the product doesn’t work, the time clock starts over but our contract count down time does not if we have to have it replaced with a NEW product or decide we are fed up with the crappy product and want to cancel it all together and go back to what we had, within the 30 day period AFTER the last glitch we called in about. If we can get them to change it to 30 instead of 14.
That will keep them and the manufactures of these products on their toes and stop selling us crap that they later have to fix. It should work out of the box and if it doesn’t 30 days down the road, there should be no issue in replacing it with a NEW product (NOT a refurbished one) and the countdown times starts again.
If any of you know some powerful political people, you need to ask them to start writing some new laws about this stuff unless these company’s police their own first and take care of these issues, but because they are making gobs of money off us, I doubt they will, so we have to force the issue and MAKE them do it though laws.
To add:
I'm not done with you Verizon. If this next Bionic doens't work and the update in Nov. does not fix it I'm sending it back and going back to my original HTC and canceling the NEW 2 year contract. Your CELL server is by far the best, the equipment is not. And I will not and should not be held to a 2 year contact if you cannot provide me with a product that works.
You really need to change your policies on your own before we the people make it a law. Take the initiative and make it right.
You want to be the best company out there, then don't follow Sprint or AT&T, be your own company and don't tell us on the phone that "All companies are doing that"...are you as lame as all the other companies out there or can you stand on your own and be the best?
