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all i want is the same rights as any android phone user. why wont you unlock my bootloader. i will keep posting till i get a response
Eh???? VZW does not lock it, particular manufacturers do though. Moto being one I know of.
moto phones on other networks can unlock the bootloaders. honestly i dont care if verizon says no insurance and warranty void ect. just give us the choice. if i go buy a computer im not forced to stay with the operating system on said computer. i can change it.
I see that comparison alot. The difference is the maker of the computer is not tied to a network. VZW IS protective of their network and can state how or if a phone can be changed or not if it is to be on their network. Things done to a phone CAN affect their network.
Their ball, their bucket and shovel, their sandbox. Ya want to play in it, ya have to abide by the rules they set OR go elsewhere. They are not demanding you stay.
"(b)(1) Insofar as such use [open access] would not be compliant with published technical standards reasonably necessary for the management or protection of the licensee’s network." this is from the fcc block c regulations. please explain to me how it is reasonably necessary for the management or protection
budone wrote:I see that comparison alot. The difference is the maker of the computer is not tied to a network. VZW IS protective of their network and can state how or if a phone can be changed or not if it is to be on their network. Things done to a phone CAN affect their network. Their ball, their bucket and shovel, their sandbox. Ya want to play in it, ya have to abide by the rules they set OR go elsewhere. They are not demanding you stay.
budone wrote:
I agree "Their ball, their bucket and shovel", but I like to think that the "sandbox" belongs to the American people via ownership and regulation by the US Government through the FCC and Congress. Kasperman1 I'm beginning to think that the only way to effect change is through the FCC and Congress. Both Verizon and Motorola will continue to do as they please until forced to do otherwise. They are doing well enough financially to not worry about a few unhappy complainers. But those few unhappy complainers if organized could have a large effect on the US political system and in turn the FCC.
I understand that unlocking a device can give more options to a user but in the end it does not stop the users from using their device as the service provider has advertised..
Also out of curiosity which carriers you know in the US that allows the unlocking of a device as a regular practice?
Wildman even in foreign Countries they don't allow this? Do they.. what the Op was Asking on the phones
There is a number of Foreign carries that allow devices to be sold and used unlocked but as for allow the bootloader to be unlocked to grant full access I havent seen this and I dont see Linux developers allow this because this opens the door to a number of worse issues that can happen by hackers or malware..
Android is built around around Linux original security platform to protect the user, even HTC unlock methods grant the access the OP is looking for without additional modifications.. These restrictions are put in place to protect the device as well as the personal data stored in the unit... Until it is understand the real risk that comes with a unlocked device users willl always tinnks it is wrong.
kasperman1 wrote:moto phones on other networks can unlock the bootloaders. honestly i dont care if verizon says no insurance and warranty void ect. just give us the choice. if i go buy a computer im not forced to stay with the operating system on said computer. i can change it.
kasperman1 wrote:
That's false. Milestone 3 which is the same as the Droid 3 are locked both of them. Some can be, but most of them can't be. There is only one that I know of that can be and that's is the Atrix out of how many Motorola devices that came out.
Well i'm not into doing that to my Droids but i was just wondering if they were as strict as were on it Here. I wished they would push out I.C.S a little faster but not to fast to mess it Up.. B :smileyhappy:
like i said NO RESPECT FOR ANDROID NO RESPECT FOR THE Developer NO RESPEC FOR THE OPEN HANDSET ALLIANCE NO RESPECT FOR THE ANDROID COMMUNITY NO RESPECT FOR THE FCC. and no respect for us
I can see how you are viewing the situation but the only thing that makes a situation like this a hard item to find a agreeable solution for is that if they offer the option to unlock a bootloader and something goes wrong the user will feel that its the manufacturer or service provider to resolve the problem...
Unlocking the device opens the user and device to security vulnerabilities possibilities and the decision the secure this part of the device isn't a jab at customer but more a method to protect the customers personal data.
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