I would like to use my phone for payments via NFC. Verizon only offers ISIS, a total bust. When will Google Wallet be available?
When vzw stops being anti-competitive.
As well when Google stops being anticompetitive as well.
If you need an explanation. Google blocks the secure element from any company from writing their own code to use it. Google DOES NOT have an exclusive license to do such. Read the white paper of the NFC secure element. Since Google blocks it Isis needs a special sim with a secure element to bypass it. This requires a lot of testing with the FCC and further beta testing as the one in phones have already been tested for years from the USM usage over the past 10 years.
ok i read it. i would purport that it would be anti-competitive if google blocked access to their "secure element" AND prevented any nfc enabled sim card from functioning. The fact that there is in fact a work around (regardless of how much verizon had to spend to develop it) means that google is still permitting competition in the nfc payment market. You may have a point that google might not have exclusive license to the use of such technology, but there is a distinction between not allowing others to use what they developped vs not allowing others to pursue a mobile payment system as a whole. On the other hand verizon is refusing to allow google wallet to use native technology on the ground that its use of the nfc secure element makes it qualitatively different that other mobile payment apps and somehow compromises the integrity of user data (a tenuous argument at best when all google does is store an id code to associate with information on remote servers). I would argue that Verizon's behavior is more non-competitive than google's. I wont say that google isn't playing their hand to the best of their ability. but they are not outright refusing verizon's right to a mobile payment system and the reverse cannot be said of verizon.
I haven't been here for a while, but this might be the most ridiculous argument tidbits has posted yet. Verizon isn't making an argument against Google Wallet being preinstalled. Verizon has been pushing against Google Wallet being available for download from the Playstore. I could see tidbits point if Google Wallet came preinstalled and uninstallable, but this is not the case.
Also, let's point out the biggest difference between Google and Microsoft as referenced in this argument. Microsoft had a monopoly on Intel based personal computers, but Google does not have a monopoly on any mobile phone chip platform. As a monopoly, Microsoft was also forming restrictive licensing agreements with OEMs while bundling IE with its operating system preventing other browsers from being bundled with PCs. The operative word here is monopoly. Microsoft's Windows isn't an open sourced operating system. It was selling it and the cost of Windows was being driven upwards because of IE. Whereas Android, is open sourced, manufacturers can and have forked away from Google. Also, there are other mobile OS that have market share on the same chip architecture. Google doesn't even have a monopoly on Android. Manufacturers can choose to not install Google Apps and use whatever apps they like. Microsoft had restrictive licensing agreements with all Intel based PC OEMs. Mobile phone OEMs have various licenses with different mobile OS on the same chip based platform.
You can't argue that Google is being anti competitive in this case. They aren't pushing competitors away from the their Playstore, nor are they not allowing the consumers to uninstall and replace Google Wallet, and Google doesn't have a monopoly on any mobile chip architecture. Verizon is using its position to push competing software from its network. This is the reason why the government is looking into Verizon (as it did with tethering) and not Google on the matter of Google Wallet.
Tidbits wrote:As well when Google stops being anticompetitive as well.
Tidbits wrote:
Just for a goof. I went to Google play to check something out. Lo and behold i found that i can download Isis Mobile Wallet, and not just any Isis Mobile Wallet, but VZW's own Isis Mobile Wallet.
Who knew!?
We are talking about the secure element. Not just the application here.
It doesn't work on your S3 does it? Without a special sim card that has a secure element within it.
Google intentionally blocks the secure element for themselves to use it.
