From what Microsoft told me, it is completely ready and VZW is one of the few that has yet to release it (probably because they are loading the adware, correct?) Please ship out the update!
MS is talking smack...
No carrier has rolled out WP 8.1 to any devices yet; at least in the US. A good place to check for if WP 8.1/Cyan will be available for their devices here, Availability in North America - Nokia
The Nokia 930 isn't supposed to be released till next month so I would guess anytime next month through August is when will see it rolled out.
In the past with Nokia devices, the track record was the newest model that received that update first. So for VZW the Icon will most likely get WP 8.1/Cyan first then the rest will follow suite.
Lastly MS prohibits adware from being installed. VZW may load up some of their crappy apps but they are easily removed/uninstalled.
well that isn't helpful, the nokia site you have listed does not show anything about windows phone 8.1 availability. So basically, 8.1 is taking a very long time to get out there. I hope we get a real answer about this someday.
ammoblammo wrote: well that isn't helpful, the nokia site you have listed does not show anything about windows phone 8.1 availability. So basically, 8.1 is taking a very long time to get out there. I hope we get a real answer about this someday.
ammoblammo wrote:
Exactly because Windows Phone 8.1 hasn't been released in the US yet so the site won't reflect it yet. There is news that European countries are starting to get it now so it's just a matter of time.
You're best bet it to keep an eye on WPCentral for news on when Windows Phone 8.1 will be released.
According to Windows Phone Central today, SFR in France is releasing 8.1 on July 8th. The entire rollout of WP8.1 seems to be very Europe-centric so I would expect Verizon in the U.S. to roll out 8.1 some time after that. I'm sick of checking my Lumia Icon every day in vain hope of seeing "update available" pop up.
The bottom line is that carriers like Verizon are being held to Microsoft's schedule. And you cannot really blame Microsoft for updating first in markets where they enjoy a larger market share than in North America. So we're back to "we get it when we get it." I'm not thrilled with that, but it is what it is.
I don't think that is correct. Microsoft says that the carrier determines availability, and the way I understand it is that it was made available to all carriers at the same time. Maybe since the Windows Phone users are a definite minority on Verizon (whether or not that is what they want is another subject...), they aren't in any big hurry to give us the update. I have asked them to give a date multiple times, but they won't commit. Maybe the fact that they can't permanently install bloatware on WP has something to do with it.
Yes, carriers determine availability and that's after Microsoft releases the OS to the OEMSs and not the carriers.
HTC, Samsung, Nokia (now Microsoft) have to test and make changes to firmware, drivers and such. Then once that is done VZW needs to test to make sure the phone works within spec.
From the Nokia side they just started releasing the update in Europe.
Also please stop with the installation of bloatware comment, it's a false information you're spreading.
I get an email from Microsoft saying to contact your carrier and ask when the update will be released. So I call Verizon and no information is available at this time. Remember the update is only supported by Microsoft until 2017. The developer release has been out for several months. How long will Verizon continue to drag on this update? A comment I read in another forum. "iPhone users do not have to wait long for their updates." I thought this was a valid point. Although iPhone hardware is all the same. So the big question. "When will Verizon decide to release this update or will they?"
I know it's a hard pill to swallow. Microsoft does control the release of the update first then the carrier. Ask yourself this; why is that only the carriers in Europe are the only country that is getting the update now and no carriers in the US? Do all the carriers in the world talk together and draw straws who releases the update first?
When Windows Phone Update 3 was released it was controlled by Nokia. They granted the carrier permission to release the updates one device model at a time again it wasn't the US first that got the update.
Primortal, you really are uninformed it seems. I had Verizon themselves tell me that it's based on carrier release. By the way, anyone who believes that Microsoft still hasn't released the update is naïve. It was officially released to carriers and the distributors June 24. First the distributors (Samsung, Nokia, HTC, etc.) have to update firmware etc. which should have been almost complete by the time the rollout started, and then it sits at carriers, waiting for carriers to add their bloatware apps like NFL Mobile etc.
That's the stage we are waiting on, for VZW to release the update. If you disagree, then you should stop commenting or trying to act like you know what you are talking about. This came from Microsoft and VZW directly, well except for the bloatware, but c'mon we know that's what is happening. I had called VZW, they say they are rolling out about 1,000 phones at a time in the US because they don't want the server bogged down/ a bad update to ruin all the phones at once. They couldn't give me any more info than that, but they assured me it is being rolled out slowly
So if it's at the carriers discretion. Why is it only Europe countries the only ones releasing the update and only Nokia/Microsoft Lumia devices; where are the updates for Samsung or HTC devices if it carrier discretion for the same carriers and why?
Updating the firmware and testing doesn't take a few days to do a good burn through. So if 6/24 is the official release date and the OEM's got the final bits even though they most likely had 8.1 earlier; its' only been a week since release. Not enough time to test and release the update and firmware to the the carriers for them to test or even re-test.
There hasn't been any news what so ever that VZW (or any other US carrier) has been releasing 8.1 to a 1000 phones at a time. WPCenter and a few diehard windows phone sites are not reporting this. WPCenter has a large user base and no one is reporting they received 8.1.
My uninformed information is based in how the past software updates released and how they were done. And right now this is no different than how it was done in the past. Specially with Nokia. Nokia released 8.0 Update 3 in Europe first and then it came to the US. Same as it's happening now so again who is controlling the roll out?
MS created "anxiety" on their WP site by previewing 8.1 and Cortana... It worked. I got all juiced up.
We should not respond to our anxiety with victim centric whining and conspiracy theories. The WP update may not at the top of Verizon's priorities. We will get it when they can successfully manage it.
Considering the issues they had with the Verizonwireless site recently, I suggest we do not rush them. Rather have it right the first time. It's easy to forget that it is a phone, not a PC. A bit more mission-critical.
Its been a month... lets go Verizon! 8.1 should have been weeks ago.
You need to talk to Microsoft. As of yet they haven't released it in the US.
Keep on eye on this post, http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8-1/293096-track-windows-phone-8-1-lumia-cyan-rollout-here.html or http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-81-tracker
