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Why is Verizon planning to block the Microsoft Lumia 950XL?

It's being reported that Verizon is planning to actively block the upcoming Microsoft Lumia 950XL from its network. Why can't you play nice like AT&T?

That's okay, since I can't get the phone that I want, and cell networks are all the same here in the SF Bay Area, I will be forced to move out 4 lines to AT&T.

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jmachats

They are blocking it because they do not sell it and can't control the apps installed. It doesn't matter its supposed to be an open network which should work with any (compatible) phone - it's verizon's way or the highway

Move your lines. Move them immediately. Verizon will only care when it starts to hurt them financially

Customer1234567

I wish the FCC got involved here. This is B.S. that Verizon is BLOCKING phones from being on their network. It's been proven that Verizon told Microsoft that they would not activate this phone on their network. SO Microsoft had to disable the bands to avoid disappointed customers or possible lawsuits.

Verizon reportedly blocking new Microsoft Lumia 950 and 950 XL phones from their network | Windows Central

Everyone who wants a 950 or 950XL should file a complaint with the FCC. Verizon's policies are that of 10 years ago, in the GLOBAL market you buy a phone, then you pick your carrier. We should be able to buy a phone and pick our carrier PERIOD.

Verizon, get your crap together here allow Microsoft to enable the bands for your network and allow US the choice to use the PHONES OF OUT CHOICE. Verizon just wants to line their pockets more forcing you to use their phones.

I've been with Verizon for almost 15 years now and have seen this crap OVER AND OVER. Why should we wait 6-8 months for you to Verizonize a phone (Adware, and Verizon crap that most people don't use) and allow it on your network?

I hope the FCC is looking at this and does a MAJOR fine to Verizon to end this 10+ year old policy. It's just dumb today, Verizon move with the times...

Tidbits

FCC isn't going to do anything.

Microsoft ADMITTED they didn't talk to anyone but AT&T. Microsoft also didn't put all the things needed to work on Verizon on their own with Band 13. So there is no block C clause.

Weth

What someone will need to do is get a 950 or 950 XL and put a Verizon SIM in the phone that is already activated and working on another Verizon phone. Report what happens then.

Tidbits

That isn't going to work. Microsoft hasn't put any of the required CDMA (WCDMA is NOT CDMA), or the Block C bands. Microsoft didn't even test it with the FCC. So Verizon has nothing to block it with.

Darrin2you

We have a family plan with Verizon, but will be switching carriers if the report is true.

Weth

So it's not Verizon at all. What's the point of this whole post?

Tidbits

That podcast shows the old way Verizon used to activate. It's completely click bait for Windows phone fans. If the person who did actually researched he'd find out Verizon no longer authenticates using CDMA anymore and the reason they no longer offer 3G devices. The 950/XL doesn't have band 13 to give it Block C protection let alone all of the required Verizon bands, and technology support (FCC documents shows no testing and no licensing).

A lot of windows phone fans are just gobbling it up.

Customer1234567

Tidbits

Prove where you saw that information, AS SAID in your other thread where you seem to be just bashing Windows Phone (Must be an Android or iOS user).

It was clearly said that Microsoft TALKED to Verizon, and Verizon didn't want anything to do with them and would BLOCK the 950 and 950XL from their network if Microsoft enabled the bands...

Customer1234567

@weth

Look up this subject on REDDIT, there was someone who had access to the 950XL and dropped a Verizon SIM in it and it did nothing.

Tidbits

Of course it did nothing... it doesn't support the band's needed to do something. Sounds completely logical...

groadyho

I was an att customer for the last 3 yrs.used a lumia 1020, love it--switched to Verizon 3 wks ago because we were tired of not having service at our ranch with att, Verizon works fine here--we both bought lumia 735 not really a downgrade from the 1020 except the camera--my wife thought for sure we could buy unlocked 950's that would work with any carrier like iPhone or nexus, not happening--we are also considering leaving back to att as att would pay any fees at least that's what att told me, they said they'd be very happy to have us return--Honestly I like Verizon service better although I get less for the price, but I can't bring myself to go android or ois--I had an s3 and hated it, tough decision but I love woindows 10 on my laptop and always loved being able to link to my xbox so cya Verizon if by spring there's no 950 available--

Tidbits

There isn't going to be any 950 or XL that'll work on any CDMA network. Go back to AT&T, any GSM carrier, or MVNO that uses GSM if you want a 950.

jeffer23

This is unfortunate but no surprise.

Verizon likes their Android phones to be a Verizon hybrid of Android. Verizon likely knows it would be very expensive to make alterations to Windows 10. My theory is that Microsoft would likely not give them control over the operating system beyond administrator rights without a big charge; Plus, a PC is far more complex than Android or IOS system. That requires a big IT commitment if they want to make a Verizon Windows phone.

From the flip side Verizon is probably scared that a lot of people will be willing to pay full price for an unlocked phone with no Verizon control on the Verizon network. I don't agree at all that it is a support issue. People using a Windows Operating system would not need Verizon's support services beyond network access if Verizon does not alter the operating system.

I suppose I will wait for the initial phones to hit the market for AT&T and then make a decision. But I won't continue using Android for much longer. The lack of version control for Android and its applications is sad. The lack of ability to easily find applications without SPAM in Android is sad.

pherson

Every time there is an exclusive phone that people want (remember when the iPhone came out) and people couldn't get it on verizon, people threatened as to why they needed it and it fit their lifestyle and they threatened to leave. But they soon came back. Once an exclusive phone comes out that isn't on a person's network, it's always an issue. It's a never ending cycle. I don't understand why if there's a phone that you love so much ( and you haven't even used it in person yet) you just can't switch carriers. And if the carrier doesn't work in your area, then you have to make that decision. But don't complain about it. We all have choices.

chodichicken

read this, its Verizon that blocked it, not Microsoft

It sounds like Verizon doesn’t want the Lumia 950 and 950 XL operating on its network | Pocketnow

Tidbits

Already disproven... the original link where pocketnow got that from was already posted a couple days ago. The article has inconsistencies about Verizon for clicky bait.

groadyho

I don't think it's more complaining as it frustration you can't buy a 600-700 dollar phone and use it on any service you want--it's really plain dumb and I was naïve enough to think any unlocked phone work on any network--I love Verizon service, was happy with att , always have had windows phones last 4 yrs. so I don't need to use it I know how it will work already have windows 10 on my comp--what I do know is I wouldn't trade my lumia 1020 or 735 for any high-end droid or ios--anyways doesn't matter surface phones will be unlocked with all network access available, I can wait--

markpat648

As someone that wants the Lumia 950 XL and is a Verizon customer, the point is that someone needs to start Talking!

Microsoft or Verizon? Let us know WTF is going on or what happened!

I'm ready to leave Verizon for this phone, IF it's Verizon's fault!

If its MS's fault then I will rethink it! (I thought Ballmer was Gone?)

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