Hello.
Does anyone have an idea? Why are we getting the run around? I'm a loyal customer and I would appreciate we get some answers ASAP!
thanks
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it's a lot easier to wait for something when you know why you're waiting.
I want an answer too! It seems that Verizon is ignoring its original DROID customers.
To be honest I believe it's sad that they are not providing us an official date.
They haven't provided an official date because things could change. First Motorola has to test it. At any point they could find something big, and have to go back and ask for fixes (or create their own). This would result in starting the testing again. Once Motorola is done, Verizon will test (they are probably doing this in parallel, but Verizon likely won't finish until after Motorola does). Same thing, at any point they could have to start over.
If they provide us with a date, and then need to back pedal, we will all be screaming because they have lied to us. It's a no win situation.
We'll see it when they are comfortable releasing it.
jason
I agree with what you say that they have to test but i dont understand why it takes so long software is already out on droid x and other phones already have flash player and we dont even get that i dont see why the first phone is the last to get a good update on it
Considering that the only phone in the WORLD with 2.2 is the Nexus One, I'm thinking your complaints are a bit premature. As for Flash, it can be had, you just need to search the web for a few seconds. Verizon is notorious for testing features before releasing updates, this should come as no suprise. They want the best possible user experience before pushing an update out. As for Droid owners being a priority, why would they be? Verizon already has your money for the phone, you're not upgrading, their priorty is and SHOULD BE to make money. It's not required that they update your phone at ALL. The fact that they are working on it goes to show that they DO care about their customers. In other words: Calm Down.
you think you're ignored now waiting for 2.2 for the original Droid, you'll never see 3.0. reports say the processor has to be 1 ghz or faster so no gingerbread for original droid. hey, look on the bright side, once you get flash 10.1, you'll have nothing more to wait for either moto or vzw to put you through their finger pointing process of (VZW waiting for MOTO to release update, no MOTO said they're waiting for VZW to okay release - you can't get a straight answer from either one)
I like you am waiting for these two knuckleheads to finally give the okay and update my droid so i can at least go on the pizza hut website or hulu, or any other flash enabled site on the web as promised by their motorola adds back around Christmas time.
We are not really getting the run around. Verizon is most likely trying to kill the Wifi Tethering built into 2.2 or trying to make a modification so that they can charge for it. Also, they are extreamly slow in releaseing software updates. From the time 2.1 was released it was about 3-4 months before the Over the Air update when out. Google released 2.2 in June, so September/October is a more realistic expectation of when it will be released. Also Verizon does not like to give out any information on updates. They prefer to keep us in the dark for what ever reason....
Your only option to waiting is to put 2.2 on the phone yourself and take the risk that is associated with doing that...
Seems that everyone always thinks their entitled to something. Anyways, Froyo updates are rumored to begin late next week but who knows.
http://androidspin.com/2010/07/26/froyo-to-roll-out-on-3-devices-next-week/
August 6th apparently it woll come out... but we will have to see!
Having worked in and done software testing in a few different industries, I'd be inclined to say they're still in the testing phase or final release phase.
There may be some issues they're still trying to contend with.
Many of us who post to boards like these would typically "tolerate" some minor flaws in order to get our hands on the latest & greatest bleeding edge technology.
The fact is, if an organization such as VZW releases something only partially tested (aka half baked) they'll have to pony up the support costs associated with dealing with all of the "regular Joe/Jane" users who don't know how to perform clever workarounds. These support costs come in the form of additional staffing, additional internal training, additional documentation, and worst of all, subscriber attrition due to poor end user experience.
So, while I, like many others, are pacing like an expectant father in a delivery room for the release of some FroYo goodness, I can certainly understand and appreciate the business case this organization has to contend with.
If you truly cannot wait, I'm sure there are other avenues of approach one can take if they truly want to be on the bleeding edge. A simple google search will reveal what I'm talking about.
Does the update 2.2 for sure come out on Aug. 6th?
I heard from a VERY reliable source 2.2 will start rolling out on Aug 3rd hang in there
I bought a DROID yesterday and the salesperson told me the upgrade to 2.2 would come out August 3.
azeis26 wrote: I heard from a VERY reliable source 2.2 will start rolling out on Aug 3rd hang in there
I''m puzzled. The MOTO page stated froyo is supposedly came out today Aug 2nd but you're saying froyo isn't out until tomorrow Aug 3rd. Can't VZW and MOTO come to an actual release date together? They are partners aren't they i.e buds, compadres, pals in the game. Right. So what's the point of having an OS that's suppose to be universal and (VZW/MOTO) can't seem to all agree on what to release, what not to release or when to release updates. I thought GOOGLE provides the OS to the handset manufactures and carriers Google released this update back in May and the N1 folks enjoyed it immensely So, how many people did VZW or MOTO assign to the testing that it took them so long to get release 2.2 to the general public. Oh, my bad. It's still not released for MOTO's DROIDS officially yet. Or is it? Can someone please enlighten me. Please.
Moto said the week of August 2. They weren't really more specific than that.
Updates are typically rolled out in stages, rather than "en mass", so it is quite possible that some people already have the update (I don't, but that doesn't really mean anything). With 2.1 they did something like 10,000 phones the first night, then 100,000 each night after that until they were all done. Yes, there were places you could download the update if you couldn't wait, but the "first" versions of those were posted by the "tech savy" customers early during the update as the manual update isn't something that I'd recommend for "most" users.
Relax a bit. It's a phone. :smileyhappy:
jasnmar wrote: Moto said the week of August 2. They weren't really more specific than that. Updates are typically rolled out in stages, rather than "en mass", so it is quite possible that some people already have the update (I don't, but that doesn't really mean anything). With 2.1 they did something like 10,000 phones the first night, then 100,000 each night after that until they were all done. Yes, there were places you could download the update if you couldn't wait, but the "first" versions of those were posted by the "tech savy" customers early during the update as the manual update isn't something that I'd recommend for "most" users. Relax a bit. It's a phone. :smileyhappy:
I agree "MOST" user might opt to wait for the OTA but if you have the need and the speed (FIOS internet ) then you should at least be allowed to download it and install it.
- Release the hounds...
{please keep your posts courteous}. As someone already said, "relax, it's just a phone." Verizon is under no obligation to update the operating system or announce in advance when an update will be made.
jasnmar wrote:The question of whether or not tethering will be allowed by VZW with froyo is an interesting one. We'll probably need to wait until someone who gets the OTA update posts to let us know.Tethering has been supported by VZW in the past, but only when they could make money from it. :smileyhappy:
I posted this in the Tethering thread but rumor is that tethering in the form of usb tethering or a mobile hotspot will not "officially" be supported on the Droid.
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=6383
"No Hotspot, No Tethering for Motorola Droid
posted Today, 9:42 AM by Eric M. Zeman updated Today, 10:17 AM
Verizon Wireless announced on July 30 that the Motorola Droid would receive the Android 2.2 update starting the week of August 2. Android 2.2 natively supports tethering and Wi-Fi hotspot creation. The Motorola Droid, however, will not offer these features. Verizon Wireless spokesperson Brenda Raney said to Phone Scoop in an email, "The Droid by Motorola doesn't have [the] hardware to support a Mobile Hotspot. With tethering there is no Connection on the PC side that will allow you to tether the device so the answer is that option isn't part of this update." Raney also said the over-the-air update will be pushed to a small set of users first to make sure it works properly. Once that is confirmed to work, Verizon will begin the general roll-out in phases. Android 2.2 offers a wide range of other improvements, including better security, Flash Player Mobile 10.1, voice dialing via Bluetooth, and improved camera performance."
That's funny that verizon would say that the motorola droid does not support wifi tethering because it doesn't have the hardware, but yet if you root your phone you can make it wifi tether. So is verizon saying they are dumber then there customers. If at&t had better service where I lived I would have the iPhone with them. At least they give an exact date when there phones will update.
So I'm watching TV last night, and in the middle of Big Bang Theory, there's a commercial for Verizon having full WiFi tethering for multiple units, for the DRIOD X! No mention of the original Droid, probably since they don't sell it anymore. I've heard the rumors, and VZW spokesperson quote, that they won't support WiFi hotpots for the original Droid, but their reasoning doesn't ring true (as has been noted here). I asked the tethering question here because I was hoping to hear something official from the VZW folks here. BTW, has anyone received the official OTA, and can confirm/deny tethering for Droid w/ Froyo?
I wouldnt hold too much stock on what you read on the internet about the 2.2 update its all hearsay theres no date posted on verizons site and theres absolutely nothing about the 2.2 update on motorolas website for the droid infact motorola still is offering the upgrade to the 2.1 software. verizon will need to suck the money out of everyones pocket who is looking to purchase the droid x before they release this update to the people who already purchased the first droid.
for the money people have to pay to own these phones you would think verizon would spend less time beating around the bush and more time satisfying there customers needs
but then again
Greed is top priority
I'm honestly just glad I'm getting the update. haha. I just uninstalled a ton of things to help my system run smoother. seems to be nice so far, but i'll be able to reinstall most of the stuff when the update comes out. But what I'm really excited for is the new Google Android Dev project that will help people like me who don't have the time to actually learn how to make an app.
i just want the update for the flash adobe origonally was creating it for the 2.1 but switched up to the 2.2 now we have to sit and wait to get it.
Earlier this morning, the red Droid ‘eye’ flashed momentarily on my screen as if the phone was being scanned. I was hopeful that meant the OTA would follow shortly, but I’m still waiting hours later……since I’ve yet to find any posts online from anybody who obtained froyo via the OTA today, I’m becoming more and more pessimistic about the alleged 8/3 release date…….<<sigh>>….
BUMP
I wanted to bump this thread because it is now Friday, August 6th 2010 (4:51AM US/Canada Time) and I STILL don't have any dam FroYo! The "week of August 2nd" is now coming to an end and I've only been hearing rumors of the FroYo updating being pushed back til "next week".
Seeing at it is so early in the morning (although I would consider it late at night) I can wait until sometime through the day to find out weather or not we will receive FroYo OTA this week. If not today then we might get the FroYo update over the weekend... But I'm not going to hold my breath for that one.If I don't see an OTA FroYo release by Sunday at 11:59PM, I'm going to manually install the 2.2 leaked version to my Moto Droid and put Adobe 10.1 beta 3 on it as well. Although it will be the FRG01B version and I heard there will be releasing the FRG22 (which has already been leaked but id rather not download that one).Can anyone tell me if downloading the official leaked FRG01B will stop you from receive or downloading the OTA FRG22 update from VZW?
During a video I was watching of someone downloading the official leak, they mentioned something about making sure your not using any custom ROMs before attempting to install the FRG01B version onto your Moto Droid.Thanks in advance
Yea, I am not going to hold my breath either.
It is extremely frustrating to be so excited about this update but for Verizon/Motorola/Google to give us no information concerning it whatsoever. I am ready for Froyo..but my Droid is fairly new and I'd really prefer to do the OTA update. Maybe it is for the best if they are tweaking out bugs with it...but if it is finished, they should let us know and give us an idea of when we can expect it.
Froyo now, please?
Yeah, we've been hearing/reading about this update coming for months. My guess if they're working anything else out, it's removing more key features. Seriously, taking away the tethering/wifi hotspot? We all know it works on the DROID. If the people who bought the DROID wanted to get screwed around by their carrier/hardware manufacturer like this, we would've bought the iPhone. Instead, we put money into an open source platform (the OS is the main reason most people bought the phone - not the hardware and slightly only for the service). We're still getting dumped on as if we don't matter. Give us the official Google release and be done with it.
Entitled - theres that word again.... misused in this context - AGAIN. Its not a feeling of entitlement... Its more like - getting what you paid for. Consider the fact that some companies - in their haste to make money - start selling an device that is incomplete. (Droid) They market it correctly (with promises of future development) The public rushes to purchase from the big name company, because their reputation says they will make good on the promised development.
When you consider the sheer speed delivered by 2.2 with an OS upgrade - and No Other Hardware Change... can you see how the scenario above comes into play? The company CHARGED full price for a device that would be completed at some future date. Before you start whining about how the individual could have purchased something else - Don't go there. That line of thinking is wrong.
We paid up front for the development we are all waiting for. It is not an entitilement mentality that We Want What We Paid For!
Darkpath wrote: Entitled - theres that word again.... misused in this context - AGAIN. Its not a feeling of entitlement... Its more like - getting what you paid for. Consider the fact that some companies - in their haste to make money - start selling an device that is incomplete. (Droid) They market it correctly (with promises of future development) The public rushes to purchase from the big name company, because their reputation says they will make good on the promised development. When you consider the sheer speed delivered by 2.2 with an OS upgrade - and No Other Hardware Change... can you see how the scenario above comes into play? The company CHARGED full price for a device that would be completed at some future date. Before you start whining about how the individual could have purchased something else - Don't go there. That line of thinking is wrong. We paid up front for the development we are all waiting for. It is not an entitilement mentality that We Want What We Paid For!
You didn't pay for the Froyo update. Technically speaking, Verizon and Motorola didn't even have to update the Droid to Froyo. Receiving the update is a privilege, not a right.
just got off the phone with verizon smart device tech and they have released the 2.2 but it'll take up to a week to reach everyone. The server sends out the update at random to a % of the users at a time so it does not overload the server. I havent got mine but hopefully I get it soon!
chrisac130 wrote: just got off the phone with verizon smart device tech and they have released the 2.2 but it'll take up to a week to reach everyone. The server sends out the update at random to a % of the users at a time so it does not overload the server. I havent got mine but hopefully I get it soon!
Hey - thanks for sharing. It is exciting to know that it is indeed rolling out. Kudos.
If you download FRG01B it will NOT stop you from getting the OTA of FRG22. it will update just like everyone elses.
Thank you for clearing that up for me! Now i can enjoy FroYo while waiting for the offical OTA FRBG22 to come out. Hopefully VZW has really started rolling out the OTA update and i will receive it by next week, but ill start to beleive it when people start posting or sharing that evidence.
As far as i know, "next week" was this week, and possibly the week before. But again, i wont be believing any offical OTA FroYo until i see proof of it. I sure do hope we all get FroYo by next week though.
Cobjones wrote:@ jeanniemarieI got 2.2 ota yesterday (10th)... I guess I wasn't put on the back burner... I called tech service and they laughed at the call of delays... they read these boards and other forums as well... they said they will continue tp update, but some might miss the original 13th cutoff date.
Well, if this is true (and I hope it is), then we will continue to wait as we quiver with anticipation. Thanks for the information...it is nice to have people posting information on this thread that says that they actually got the update. Has anybody else received the official ota update yet?
@ CobJones
If you don't mind telling, what was the build number on the update you received? Thanks!
well i couldnt wait any longer eiher. i have the original moto droid. and ive been checking for the update everyday. i couldnt take it so i went and manualy updated it with 2.2.
and no i didnt have to root my phone it is the 2.2 update from google and vorizon. everything works i have 5 screens it runs faster.
model number: droid
android version: 2.2
baseband version: c_01.43.01p
kernel version: 2.6.32.9-g103d848
build number: frg01b
thats what my phone currently has on it under the "about phone"
the only this that ive seen that doesnt work is flash player. i checked the market and its not in there. i know its out because ive seen it in the market on a htc evo phone.
so if anyone knows if its true what they said above about flash not bein released for the original moto droid let me know.
that and im wondering if and when verizon sends the ota 2.2 update will it just override my current 2.2 system? like i said
I DID NOT ROOT MY PHONE.
so you can get it you just need to spend a couple minutes checking the other droid forums. and i dont see any problems as long as you dont root your device its all good.
and last but not least if anyone knows where i could find the beta 3 version of the adobe 10.1 please let me know
bob
{edited for privacy}
wait i can get the update manually with out rooting my phone?!? plz explain in a little detail as to how u did this, i really dont want to void anything with verizon by rooting mine but id like to have the update
You posted this on the 10th, yesterday was the 9th.
head over to one of the forums (I use androidcentral.com) and look att he forums. Plenty of posts about adding flash to your droid.
Rob
dybbob wrote: well i couldnt wait any longer eiher. i have the original moto droid. and ive been checking for the update everyday. i couldnt take it so i went and manualy updated it with 2.2.and no i didnt have to root my phone it is the 2.2 update from google and vorizon. everything works i have 5 screens it runs faster. model number: droidandroid version: 2.2baseband version: c_01.43.01pkernel version: 2.6.32.9-g103d848build number: frg01b thats what my phone currently has on it under the "about phone" the only this that ive seen that doesnt work is flash player. i checked the market and its not in there. i know its out because ive seen it in the market on a htc evo phone. so if anyone knows if its true what they said above about flash not bein released for the original moto droid let me know.that and im wondering if and when verizon sends the ota 2.2 update will it just override my current 2.2 system? like i said I DID NOT ROOT MY PHONE. so you can get it you just need to spend a couple minutes checking the other droid forums. and i dont see any problems as long as you dont root your device its all good. and last but not least if anyone knows where i could find the beta 3 version of the adobe 10.1 please let me know bob {edited for privacy}
Yes, you can get 2.2 without root access. There are differing opinions on whether or not you'll void your warranty (my opinion is that it won't, but that's just my opinion).
Steps to install...
Download the file from http://android.clients.google.com/updates/voles/signed-voles-FRG01B-from-ESE81.e48e48ff.zip to your computer. Rename the file update.zip (if you have hide extensions turned on you need to be careful that the file doesn't get named update.zip.zip).
Backup your phone (however you want to do this).
Put the update.zip file on the root of the SD card.
Power off the phone.
Press the X key on the keyboard. Hold it down.
Turn on the power to the phone (keep X held down).
When you see the yield sign release the X key.
Press the volume up key . While holding Volume up, press the camera key 1/2 down.
On the menu that appears select install update.zip (or something similar, I'm going from memory). (press the "gold" button on the keyboard to "select" a menu option).
Wait for a bit.
When the menu comes back select reboot (or restart).
Keep waiting (this took my phone somewhere more than 5 minutes, but probably less than 10).
You'll now be running FRG01b. A few people have indicated that after this first boot it is a bit flakey, so an additional reboot is a good idea.
You can download the Flash Beta from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NT2ER7HX, but you'll need to do the install "manually" (it's different than installing from the market).
Verizon rep told me that Flash 10.1 would be available on August 18th.
I just don't understand Verizon's take on this whole update ordeal.
I don't mind waiting for the update if something is wrong or needs fixed,But this secrecy and keeping us in the dark rags me to no end. It isn't like we are asking for the world just an answer from Verizon if the update is rolling out or not.
I receive a bill every month for the service I chose Verizon to provide.I am expected to pay that bill in a timely fashion which I do.Is it to much to ask for Verizon to provide us info on that service in a timely fashion as well?
Why won't they answer?Because they know they don't have to.They could care less about keeping us updated because they know they have us over a barrel.verizon knows that when it comes to coverage they have the best network,and where I live it's the only network that provides reliable service period.
They could care less if Joe Schmo moves to another carrier because they know others will take his place and in the end he will probably come back.I think it shows poor customer service skills and a total disregard for customer satisfaction,but at this point it is obvious they could care less.They get our money every month,that's all they care about.
I'd leave the manual update alone for the time being unless you're fairly tech savvy. Too much conflicting information running around. There are 2 versions of the supposed "official" Froyo build (FRF01b): the one linked previously in this thread and one that someone received two days ago. The latter is reported to be more stable but you must be on a non-Froyo rom to manually install it. Otherwise, you'd need to revert back to 2.0.1 or 2.1 and then manually update.
Looks like more reports of people receiving the FRG01b OTA update are slowly trickling in across the various android forums. Same build as the previously leaked version but apparently installs differently. Rather than patching existing system files, the latest release wipes /system and installs fresh. Your apps, settings and everything else will remain since only system files are touched.
