Bionic - Global Ready?

bres
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Initial descriptions of the Bionic had it Verizon's first 4g global ready phone. Ready to get one yesterday I discovered it is not. Any idea why not and when Verizon will debut a 4G global ready phone? 

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curtterp
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bres wrote:

Initial descriptions of the Bionic had it Verizon's first 4g global ready phone. Ready to get one yesterday I discovered it is not. Any idea why not and when Verizon will debut a 4G global ready phone? 


The reason why you see a lack of global ready phones, is that the different parts of the globe, have different frequencies that they use for their LTE deployments. For each set of frequencies, you need to have a different antennas for the different frequencies. With the small amout of power for cell phones, each set of frequencies need to have an antenna that is tuned to that frequency. With the small amount of real estate inside the phone, they have to find places to put them.

 

When will we see a global ready phone? Only the manufacturers know.

 

I never did see anything that advertised the Bionic as global ready, just 4g ready. Of course, there was never an official announcement from Verizon or Motorola until the night before it was released.

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toy_truck
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I recall hearing something about the Bionic being globally capable.  Want to say I read it  on CNET but not sure.  Still I like the phone

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bres
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I talked to a Verizon tech (who was helping me with another problem) about 2 months ago who told me that the Bionic would be the first Verizon 4G phone global ready. I know about the antennas. My 3 year old blackberry is global ready. I fail to understand why the Verizon removed that feature from the Bionic.

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Bres, thank you for sharing where you heard this information. I apologize that the representative gave you incorrect information. The Bionic has never been advertised as a global device. We chose to implement LTE as our 4G technology not only because of the remarkable speeds and reliability, but also because eventually the rest of the world will move over to LTE. At that time, our LTE phones will be compatible with other carriers' across the world. That may be where the confusion lies. Here is Motorola's official press release about the Bionic following CES (Consumer Electronics Show) in January. 

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badbukcy
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So MarquiaF, when will Verizon come out with a Global Ready 4G phone? It only has to be 4G ready in the US, and 3G everywhere else and I think that would cover it, since most usage would be in the US for most people anyway.

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bres
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I second badbukcy's question. I am ready to immediately upgrade to a Verizon Droid 4G Global ready phone. When will one arrive?

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me2tink
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I was also told in my local Verizon store (A company store, not a reseller) that the Bionic would be global ready. This was in mid August 2011

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bres
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Wow, Verizon sure has been silent on these questions. Wonder why they won't answer us?

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ocean1159
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So, when the Bionic was initially introduced I read the reviews and found that this phone might work for me.  The information was sketchy whether it was a global phone or not.  I called Verizon and asked specifically if it was a global phone, I was told yes.  I ordered the phone.  I've had the phone for almost a month now and heard from a few people that it was NOT a global phone.  I called Verizon and asked the Tech and she confirmed that it was not a global phone.

 

I can't tell you how disappointed I am.  I would have NEVER ordered this phone had I known it wasn't global.  I have two more phones to upgrade.  I've decided to wait while I explore other options.  Apologies in this matter are unacceptable.  I would expect that all Verizon representatives know the equipment they are promoting, that includes the specs.

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bres
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I hate to switch, having been a Verizon wireless customer for over 10 years,but AT&T has several 4G phones that are global ready, including the iPhone 4S. Why isn't Verizon's 4S 4G? Why are they not answering these questions since they obviously monitor this list?

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mdram4x4
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bres wrote:

I hate to switch, having been a Verizon wireless customer for over 10 years,but AT&T has several 4G phones that are global ready, including the iPhone 4S. Why isn't Verizon's 4S 4G? Why are they not answering these questions since they obviously monitor this list?


the iphone 4s is not 4g, not even on att, it may be hspa+ or whatever they are calling it

here are some spee tests i found on the net

 

Speedtest.net #1

  •  iPhone 4S, AT&T 3G: 3.15 Mbps download, 1.14 Mbps upload
  • Droid Bionic, Verizon 4G LTE – 11.56 Mbps download, 5.56 Mbps upload

Speedtest.net #2

  • iPhone 4S, AT&T 3G: 3.50 Mbps down, 1.12 Mbps upload
  • Droid Bionic, Verizon 4G LTE: 12.30 Mbps download 5.54 Mbps upload

so what att is calling 4g atm is between 3g and 4g

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ocean1159
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But it still doesn't make the Bionic "global ready" which is what I was told and why I bought the phone in the first place!

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mdram4x4
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looking at vzw site there are no global redy 4g phones

 

its either global or 4g, not both

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gina7289
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It is global if u go to country with cdma. This is what i was told. Not sure because it gas a sim card a rep called it global.
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badbukcy
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Most countries are not CDMA (outside of North America).

 

As was mentioned previously. Verizon currently has DOES NOT have any phones that are both 4G and Global. A simple search on their product page will make that obvious.

 

Go here : http://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones-2.shtml

 

Under Features, select 4G and the Global option goes away. Click Global and the 4G option goes away. No phones do both.

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gina7289
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Maybe because i dont see 4g often i would be happy i atleast can use some funtion global. Even if it isent 4g. I saw a list of some contries being cdma. I byoassed most talking about global under this topic because it was about no data at all.
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gina7289
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Btw i knew what u ment by that u dont have to show me. I never said u didnt have to give up the 4g speed temporary to use global funtion. I would be happy i can enjoy both. Arent u useing cdma on a global 3g phone? I know it has sim though. For u to have an official global 4g phone ur saying we would need 2 sim cards?
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gina7289
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Sorry laat sentence first post. My phone messed up.
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