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Can we expect another update for all the 2.2 issues?

After two days on Froyo, I have decided to turn off my Incredible ...I am going back to my BlackBerry. After experiencing the downfall of the Incredible due to Froyo, my BlackBerry Tour is looking better by the minute. I don't want to receive a 'certified/like new' device because it will not work (they never do) ...I am convinced 2.2 is just overall a very poor software and I do not expect Google to release a fix since most people are not reporting the issues and just ignoring them since they are impressed with the pretty new colors, graphics and slightly faster browser.

Fortunately someone will be gullible enough to buy it from me ..but I feel more comfortable letting it go if I know there is a fix in the future. May be too soon to call, but does anyone think Google will fix 2.2 or just wait for HTC to release a phone more compatible with 2.2, like Motorola did by releasing Droid 2?

Thanks!

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cstrait001

12 hrs after the update and I hate it. Web browsing speed is slowed considerably using 3g. Iheart Radio skips, making listening via 3g at work unbearable. On WiFi at home, no problems. Any way to go back to 2.1?

bakester76

You say there are problems with 2.2 and think maybe it's just "poor" software, but you don't elaborate. What kind of problems are you experiencing? Are all problems only after the update? Or were some present before updating? Please specify the problems. Otherwise, you just sound like a complainer.

ajnevares1

Im sure there is ...but I gave up trying to make my phone work. I am on the BlackBerry Tour now and having a whole new appreciation for it, haha

FramCire

Have you tried a hard reset? Most people are finding a hard reset solves most of their issues.

When I get my update, I will be doing a hard reset.

As far as like new, a friend at Verizon (who is a manager there) says refurbs work BETTER because they go through MORE testing for each unit than a new device. My refurb is much better than my original.

Just my opinion.

pcar1947

I am sorry I have to say this!!!! Who Cares that you are going back to your Blackberry T, And to think that you are so arrogant to think that someone would be so Gulible to buy your DINC! Sad thing someone will!

ajnevares1

I have tried multiple hard resets, wipe cleans, uninstall of apps, updating roaming, you name it ...

here are the issues I posted on Android Central, and all these were not issues before installing 2.2 OTA

1) Battery takes about 8-10 hours to fully charge
2) Battery life went from an average of 6-8 hours use before meter turned orange to 2-4 hours after installing 2.2
3) Force close errors each time a new MMS is recd
4) Lags when scrolling thru App Drawer
5) Lags when scrolling thru contacts
6) No longer receive FB updates from other post outside of my own
7) Not receiving AOL messages as frequent
8) Keyboard is very sensitive (types when the cord from my headphones touches the keyboard)
9) Switches from portrait to landscape without moving the phone at all times
10) Games I played often on 2.1 now hiccup/skip during game play
11) Moving apps to the memory card causes your widgets to no longer work
12) YouTube widget now shows popular/recommended videos which I imagine kills the battery
13) I am not seeing a difference in the internet speed on 3G or WiFi
14) Although I kill the internet thru ATK, when opening the browser again it remains at the last page I visited
15) Several sites do not play videos although the latest Flash is installed
16) Many new pre installed apps that are not necessary and cannot be uninstalled
17) My BlackBerry USB cord no longer charges the phone thru my PC
18) Cannot supress the pop up for the Media Manager each time I plugged my phone into the PC
19) Phone 'unlocks' itself
20) When pressing the lock button on the phone, the screen does not light up. After pressing it again, it lights up then goes dark as if it just recognized my first attempt to unlock
21) PDF's, have yet to successfully open a file since it takes forever
22) Icons on each home are not lining up correctly, lining up crooked
23) Clock widget with weather icon shows the sun/moon over the tempature
24) and almost as important as the battery, the signal is very inconsistent

Verizon has offered to send me a replacement, but it will not make a difference ...knowing the items above were not issues prior to 2.2 tells me it is not the phone, in fact, a buddy of mine with 2.1 update1 charged my extended battery and it charged must faster, and lasted all day ...oppose to yesterday when the battery lasted only about 2 hours on a full charge.

This new software is a joke! I hate to sound like a "complainer", but lets compare softwares ...the phone was flawless before 2.2, I refused the "certified/like new" replacement since its only a phone that didnt work for someone else and it was 'tested' by validating it turns on and off.

I apologize for sounding like such a downer on this ...but I have been thru many devices in my time with Verizon and I was so excited when I first received my Incredible ...it was everything I wanted in a phone, but now, its useless to me thanks to Froyo.

devinrhode2

are you sure that isnt from froyo in-compatibility? Maybe, just maybe Google put in some code for apps to be lighter on Verizon's network. Either way, if an app isnt specifically made for froyo, it may have some problems.

Tidbits

ajnevares1 wrote:
I have tried multiple hard resets, wipe cleans, uninstall of apps, updating roaming, you name it ...

here are the issues I posted on Android Central, and all these were not issues before installing 2.2 OTA

1) Battery takes about 8-10 hours to fully charge
2) Battery life went from an average of 6-8 hours use before meter turned orange to 2-4 hours after installing 2.2
3) Force close errors each time a new MMS is recd
4) Lags when scrolling thru App Drawer
5) Lags when scrolling thru contacts
6) No longer receive FB updates from other post outside of my own
7) Not receiving AOL messages as frequent
8) Keyboard is very sensitive (types when the cord from my headphones touches the keyboard)
9) Switches from portrait to landscape without moving the phone at all times
10) Games I played often on 2.1 now hiccup/skip during game play
11) Moving apps to the memory card causes your widgets to no longer work
12) YouTube widget now shows popular/recommended videos which I imagine kills the battery
13) I am not seeing a difference in the internet speed on 3G or WiFi
14) Although I kill the internet thru ATK, when opening the browser again it remains at the last page I visited
15) Several sites do not play videos although the latest Flash is installed
16) Many new pre installed apps that are not necessary and cannot be uninstalled
17) My BlackBerry USB cord no longer charges the phone thru my PC
18) Cannot supress the pop up for the Media Manager each time I plugged my phone into the PC
19) Phone 'unlocks' itself
20) When pressing the lock button on the phone, the screen does not light up. After pressing it again, it lights up then goes dark as if it just recognized my first attempt to unlock
21) PDF's, have yet to successfully open a file since it takes forever
22) Icons on each home are not lining up correctly, lining up crooked
23) Clock widget with weather icon shows the sun/moon over the tempature
24) and almost as important as the battery, the signal is very inconsistent

Verizon has offered to send me a replacement, but it will not make a difference ...knowing the items above were not issues prior to 2.2 tells me it is not the phone, in fact, a buddy of mine with 2.1 update1 charged my extended battery and it charged must faster, and lasted all day ...oppose to yesterday when the battery lasted only about 2 hours on a full charge.

This new software is a joke! I hate to sound like a "complainer", but lets compare softwares ...the phone was flawless before 2.2, I refused the "certified/like new" replacement since its only a phone that didnt work for someone else and it was 'tested' by validating it turns on and off.

I apologize for sounding like such a downer on this ...but I have been thru many devices in my time with Verizon and I was so excited when I first received my Incredible ...it was everything I wanted in a phone, but now, its useless to me thanks to Froyo.

Most of those could be fixed by doing a factory reset, and a full battery charge with the phone off over-night.

As far as the browser showing the last page visited I have had that problem from the G1 to N1. The way I close out of the browser now is always menu-->windows close the window and then back out. It'll ALWAYS work, and no need for a task killer.

There is even a report of a new version of Froyo with a new radio for the Nexus One. So there may be tweaks here and there being released shortly for all 2.2 devices(minor update).

ajnevares1

I have done two factory resets/wipe cleans but no improvement ...I gave up. The phone was useless since it always had to be plugged up.

Its heart breaking! I really like that phone

Tidbits

If you have the original file you try and do a reinstall manually after a factory reset? I have done that with my Nexus One when I had 3G troubles and that fixed my problem.

Also please get rid of that TK.

ajnevares1

I will have to reactivate it again and try that, thank you I appreciate it! Right now the Tour is assigned to my line.

Why get rid of the Task Killer? I have read that alot but I never understood the harm in having it installed ...

Appreciate the suggestion, thank you!

Tidbits

ajnevares1 wrote:
I will have to reactivate it again and try that, thank you I appreciate it! Right now the Tour is assigned to my line.

Why get rid of the Task Killer? I have read that alot but I never understood the harm in having it installed ...

Appreciate the suggestion, thank you!

It's useless and eats more battery since 2.1 than before. If you are closing an app that won't force close is one thing, but to close libraries that is shared with other applications is another. If you close one it'll force the library to close as well.

For example if you close the messaging app or voicemail people will often notice reception problems as they share the same libraries. Now you notice a system app may come back on and then bring up anything that is shared with the same library. It's in ram, but has 0 processes. 0 processes = no CPU, no battery consumption.

Linux systems love things in ram. Best example OSX is a linux based system, and have you ever heard the Apple guys running an TK on their systems? Ubuntu? Debian? Nothing is ram is considered wasted ram. It works differently than windows. Android is no exception as it's still a Linux variant and follows the same concepts.

Even Google pushes people from using it and voiced their concerns about it publicly, and on their blogs.

Just try it without the ATK for a few days and you may notice it could run smoother for you.

AZSALUKI

yeah...try dumping the killer. i have always used one and had no issues, but MANY issues others have had were resolved by uninstalling the killer. also, google changed the code so that the task killers are ineffective with 2.2 (i uninstaled mine today). i feel for ya.....but you should understand that there are hundreds of thousand of these that got update, and a handful of them went bad. most can be fixed and if not, then they can get a refurb. regarding refurbs, they absolutely are as good as a new device. sure you can get a bad one. however, to those people i ask "wasn't your NEW device bad, or why did you return it?" i buy refurbs because they are less than half retail price and have yet to get a bad one. but the argument that they are worse than a new device makes no sense since people must have had a bad new device to begin with if they retruned it. i would bet a paycheck that no more incs went bad because of the update than new ones with 2.1 were sent out that were bad to begin with. there are lemons with anything, including software updates. just my opinion...but what could it hurt to try a refurb? if it still blows, try to get a comparable device. my experience has been that if vzn can't get you a working unit after 2 or 3 tries, they'll give you something comparable. someone earlier said she got a refurb and TWO extended batteries (with desktop charge for the spare) to be shipped to her after a LONG, patient, and polite phone call to CS.

cstrait001

After uninstalling task killer, the problems with Iheart Radio skipping while using 3g stopped. Web browsing on 3g is fast again.

TheGreatOne

cstrait001 wrote:
After uninstalling task killer, the problems with Iheart Radio skipping while using 3g stopped. Web browsing on 3g is fast again.

Funny. Just the other week you mentioned to get task killer & that it worked wel :smileyindifferent:

cstrait001

TheGreatOne wrote:

cstrait001 wrote:
After uninstalling task killer, the problems with Iheart Radio skipping while using 3g stopped. Web browsing on 3g is fast again.
Funny. Just the other week you mentioned to get task killer & that it worked wel

I did? :smileysurprised: However, that was before I received the 2.2 upgrade. On 2.1, it worked pretty well, at least I thought so. After 2.2, ATK was useless in stopping apps.

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