Gingerbread for HTC Thunderbolt

[Profaniter]

Hey guys, I hope ya all are enjoying your HTC Thunderbolt...

First thing first, I've made some few calls to both HTC and Thunderbolt and they kept pointing to each other. As in I was trying to say that Verizon would say "HTC is responsible for this" and HTC will say the same thing..

I know a lot of us would really want Gingerbread on Thunderbolt phones that we have in our hands and I want to ask one silly simple stupid question: When in hell will we get Gingerbread on our phones?

I thought about it a lot and think it's really ridiculously stupid that many another Android phones have received Gingerbread before Thunderbolt, not to mention those phones the ones that came out AFTER Thunderbolt...

So any helps or any comments, anything at all, would be greatly appreciated! Thanks guys!

Hope someone read this and reply soon thank you!

[Elitist_Jerk]

Both the manufacturer and carrier work on updates

The thunderbolt has a lot of other software issues right now.. I'm sure they are trying to work those out.

What will gingerbread bring to the thunderbolt? Nothing

The problems with the phone like battery and switching to lte/3g all the time need to be addressed first

The xperia has 2.3..so what

I really don't understand the issue

[Wildman]

This subject has been covered meny times before and the statement I can say :How many 4G devices have Gingerbread"?  If you think about it you would learn there is no 4G device yet..

[Ambushbug]

My response is right in line with the two above. No 4G phones on Verizon have GB yet, so it's not like it's getting left behind. Also what is it that you and others want so bad from GB that it's upsetting you so much? I think so many people have just got caught up in the "OMG Gingerbread!" hysteria that they don't even know what it is about GB they actually want.

[prowley40]

I personally believe Motorola has some deal with Verizon to release the first 4g Gingerbread phone.  And id bet that once the Bionic comes out in sept within a month or so we will see the TB, Charge, and revolution all get GB updates.  Not to mention it will be a selling point to convince people to shell out 250-300 on the bionic vs 100-250 for the TB, Charge or revolution.

[AZSALUKI]

while i'm not that worried about it.....people have a right to want the most recent version of the OS...particularly when one of the BEST features (video calls) requires GB if you want to use Skype (which is the standard). we all got the first LTE device from verizon and i understood that we were more or less going to be a giant test case. however, it's been over 4 months now and they have had time to work everything out AND get GB ready to push. in my opinion, it's pretty lame. when you consider that the lifespan of their high end phones are now less than one year, it is a bit annoying that 4 months into this one they have still not updated it to GB. by the end of the year this phone will be old news and they likely won't even be supporting it. i wish they would focus on perfecting some more of what they offer instead of CONSTANTLY releasig new devices with issues. in a year and a half they released 7 (or more??) motorollas. i'm all for options and choices, but i'd rather see them keep up with updates instead of release a new phone every month.  

[Ambushbug]

People have the "right" to want the newest version of software, never said they didn't. My point is most people can't tell you what it is or why they want it. I just belive that once it's released you are going to get a whole lot of "is that it?" from people.

As far as needing GB for Skype that's not true, I've used Skype on my stock TB up until the last update. If Skype wanted to release a working versions on Froyo they could, they just choose not to. That is an issue with Skype, not Verizon or HTC. Now that Microsoft has bought Skype I wouldn't expect them to be in any hurry to help their competition when they are trying to promote their own Windows based phone.

[AZSALUKI]

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Ambushbug wrote:

People have the "right" to want the newest version of software, never said they didn't. My point is most people can't tell you what it is or why they want it. I just belive that once it's released you are going to get a whole lot of "is that it?" from people.

As far as needing GB for Skype that's not true, I've used Skype on my stock TB up until the last update. If Skype wanted to release a working versions on Froyo they could, they just choose not to. That is an issue with Skype, not Verizon or HTC. Now that Microsoft has bought Skype I wouldn't expect them to be in any hurry to help their competition when they are trying to promote their own Windows based phone.

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if you can no longer use skype then i believe it is true that you need GB.

[RobB772]

Isn't gb suppose to integrate multiple cameras? And provide better power management (without relying on 3rd party apps VZW can blame for causing problems). Just the supposed froyo bug fixes should make it a priority on the phone after your dream phone (under the hood or clearly user visible)

[DroidM]

Most peopel just want GB because They are hoping it fix the conectivity propblems soem have reported 9Althou Alot of that may have to do with wher you live and not the phone) Most are also asuming GB will improve the battery life wich it might help but most people need to face facts and get a biger battery as well to see any real improvement. Skyp and Video Chat is a big deal to many curently for most T-Bolt useres Skype will not work with out GB and most do nto want to do that thing we can not speek of hear to make it work, A few have said they have a working version of Skyp with out..... (Well You Know)  I personaly have yet to find a way to do it. Lastly as T-bolt owners we wher promised that we woudl be the first to get GB in the LTE line (Althou they never actualy SAID this it was implied for the most part wich is important to keep in mind) Personaly I think most are starting to get concerned that the T-bolt and all it's bug will simply be forgoten about because it has happend to other phones in the past. I perosnaly dont' think that will happen we will get our Update when it is ready. To be honest after dealing witht he reboots 9Wich I did not have as severly as most seemed to have) Im will to wait for now and let them get it right althou Ill admit I am eager for the update. All we can realy do is wait and thats all HTC and VZW are going to tell us untill there ready to send it out... As it stand none of the 4G LTE phoens have GB so realy Im not woried about it just yet.

[RobB772]

I'm pretty p.o'd with Verizon's claims of improved data connection and the empirical results of both mr1 and mr2 updates. While mr1 was terrible and resulted in countless complaints of constant reboots, mr2 caused my bolt to drop data connection(secretly) since it updated my phone and this connectivity issue isn't on my phone exclusively. I use my phone in what Verizon map shows as a strong 4G signal area(so much for the where its used theory) and always have used it there. It's their software that's the problem not early life failure of hardware. And their regression testing leaves a lot to be wanted( if done correctly, old bugs should NEVER show up in subsequent patches ... Eg: messaging bug)

[Wildman]

I have determined that it makes no difference what happens because if this forum continue its normal pattern it wont matter if Gingerbread gets released or not because with the talk of Ice Cream you will see complaints in less than two days on why the TB wont be getting that update....  This is a pointless on going situation that wont ever end..

[ghamden]

Your right devs are already prepping for Ice cream and in the dev community rumors are that GB has issues with 4g so htc is working on ice cream for verizons 4g phones.

I said the this before the people want ing GB think the 3.0 sense interface is gb its not GB will not look to much different than  froyo.

[AZSALUKI]

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ghamden wrote:

Your right devs are already prepping for Ice cream and in the dev community rumors are that GB has issues with 4g so htc is working on ice cream for verizons 4g phones.

I said the this before the people want ing GB think the 3.0 sense interface is gb its not GB will not look to much different than  froyo.

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maybe....but i still think most people that want GB really just want some of the apps to work on their phone....like skype. the tbolt FIANLLY got netflix. i suspect that if it got skype, a lot of people wouldn't care so much about GB. we bought a phone that we assumed could video call. i think most people just want that feature. i knew skype wasn't on it when i bought it, but i definitely didn't think that 5 months later it STILL wouldn't be available. it's august and before you know it, it will be fall and the bionic, ip5, new samsung, and a new htc will roll out. i suspect that what very little support the tbolt has recieved will just about be done once those devices are out. 

[ghamden]

I agree it is a sad state of affairs that cellpnone companies and provider seem to be given a complete pass from any oversight  if any other manufacturer or company would use this type of misleading tactics they would have been investigated by about evey consumer protection agencies . With cellphones Buyer beware is by definition the status qou..

[codiac1881]

yes. but what can we do. We are a small minority of people who understand and need cell phones to operate as advertised and promised. majority of users see a problem, and work around it. I dont. if you says my phone can squeeze oranges, it better squeeze those oranges..   P.S.  my thunderbolt doesnt even know what squeezing is...  come on big red, help us

[Tidbits]

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ghamden wrote:

I agree it is a sad state of affairs that cellpnone companies and provider seem to be given a complete pass from any oversight  if any other manufacturer or company would use this type of misleading tactics they would have been investigated by about evey consumer protection agencies . With cellphones Buyer beware is by definition the status qou..

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OK please explain to me why a 3rd party company which makes their own software, and money through there software get the pass, but everyone should blame companies that have NOTHING to do with their software?

I read all the "RUMORS" stating that Skype with video would be on the Thunderbolt.  That's just that RUMORS.  If Verizon has said anything it was on good faith that Skype would complete what they said they would.  This happens all the time, and people always takes them as "promises" when there was no promise made.  It gets kinda redundant...  A person could have returned their devices if it didn't have that "feature" and got everything back and wait until it does if you really wanted said item, or wait for the next "big thing".

If Skype didn't step up to the bar that's on them as they are the ones especially on their own forums everything is ON THEM.  They didn't do what they needed to do.  I can't remember in which thread it was on their boards.

[Wildman]

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Tidbits wrote:

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ghamden wrote:

I agree it is a sad state of affairs that cellpnone companies and provider seem to be given a complete pass from any oversight  if any other manufacturer or company would use this type of misleading tactics they would have been investigated by about evey consumer protection agencies . With cellphones Buyer beware is by definition the status qou..

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OK please explain to me why a 3rd party company which makes their own software, and money through there software get the pass, but everyone should blame companies that have NOTHING to do with their software?

I read all the "RUMORS" stating that Skype with video would be on the Thunderbolt.  That's just that RUMORS.  If Verizon has said anything it was on good faith that Skype would complete what they said they would.  This happens all the time, and people always takes them as "promises" when there was no promise made.  It gets kinda redundant...  A person could have returned their devices if it didn't have that "feature" and got everything back and wait until it does if you really wanted said item, or wait for the next "big thing".

If Skype didn't step up to the bar that's on them as they are the ones especially on their own forums everything is ON THEM.  They didn't do what they needed to do.  I can't remember in which thread it was on their boards.

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+1 on that reply, I agree..

[RobB772]

I don't really care about Skype BUT some posters seem to forget just how much this functionality was hyped (and demo'd)at the CES. Then during the ensuing months waiting for device to be released, there was never an "officially" released statement saying it wasn't going to be included. Unambiguous communication, something a communication company should strive to be excellent at, goes a long way at setting and reseatting expectations. Maybe that ought to be given a whirl, ya think? Just my $.02.

[Tidbits]

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RobB772 wrote:
I don't really care about Skype BUT some posters seem to forget just how much this functionality was hyped (and demo'd)at the CES. Then during the ensuing months waiting for device to be released, there was never an "officially" released statement saying it wasn't going to be included. Unambiguous communication, something a communication company should strive to be excellent at, goes a long way at setting and reseatting expectations. Maybe that ought to be given a whirl, ya think? Just my $.02.

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Actually there was plenty of releases about it not being ready during release.  It was from Skype who developed the software, and I saw it the first day when it was released.  Skype kepted everyone in the dark until the last minute.

As I said before.  Sometimes things are said in good faith.  Verizon did that with Skype and HTC.  Skype and HTC dropped the ball and Skype admitted THEY dropped the ball.  Verizon has no control on Skype software.

[RobB772]

Tidbits wrote:

Actually there was plenty of releases about it not being ready during release. It was from Skype who developed the software, and I saw it the first day when it was released. Skype kepted everyone in the dark until the last minute.

As I said before. Sometimes things are said in good faith. Verizon did that with Skype and HTC. Skype and HTC dropped the ball and Skype admitted THEY dropped the ball. Verizon has no control on Skype software."

As I posted,

Verizon is a communication company and I’m pretty sure that Verizon wasn’t kept in the dark by Skype. Verizon should have officially addressed the “misconception” that was going to be integrated into the Thunderbolt at release.  After all wasn’t it Verizon reps at CES demoing and hyping this functionality at CES? It was because of that picked up and reported by all the major and minor players in technology reporting. During those weeks between CES and release Verizon remained mute. How can you possibly believe Verizon deserves a “pass” on not setting the record straight? Ultimately Verizon is the entity that sells the phone to the customer.

 To most it’s obvious that not correcting this and other “misunderstandings” (remember the 8MB internal RAM that was never “officially” defined as mostly non-user accessible?)  only help promote marketing hype that helps sales.

A little upfront honesty WOULD have reset expectations. Instead corporate silence won out.