Uninstalling PreInstalled Applications I will not Use

[aleksgollu]

How can I uninstall applications that I am not going to use that the phone came with, such as CityId, Blockbuster, ...

I just spent over an hour with cusotmer support, they are refusing to help, claiming that without these applications my phone would nto work

Thanks, ALEKS...

[Natashia86]

Hello aleksgollu! Unfortunately, preinstalled applications can not be removed from the phone. 

[aleksgollu]

I cannot trust the truthfullness of the answer:

"preinstalled applications can not be removed from the phone"

I would have respected the following answer:

"We will not allow you to uninstall these applications because of existing marketing agreements"

{edit for TOS violation}

ALEKS...

[marsupilami]

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Natashia86 wrote:

Hello aleksgollu! Unfortunately, preinstalled applications can not be removed from the phone. 

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Hi Natashia,

You seem to be a Verizon Employee...

Could you please provide us with an official policy from Verizon (and if it applies to by Motorola/Google or Apple) about what level of privacy protection you provide to your phone owners.

Who is forcing applications and application controls onto the phone owners/user. Is it Verizon, is it the hardware manufacurer, is it the operating sytem owner. I do not want to just rely one one manager's statement "aleksgollu" seems to be quoting in this thread.

I know that when I download an application I have to go through a configuration and authorize the applications to have access to GPS etc.. I want to know what other private information verizon/motorola/google allow these applications, in addition to hardcoding these applications to the phone.

E.g. if my GPS is on will CityGuide will be simply given access to my location even if I will never use this application and do not want it to know my location? Will Verizon separately sell my user information to CityID or Blockbuster. Will these compamies based on my location be able to start sending me unwanted SMS messages or other e-mail?

Gettting unsolictied SMS messages has been a problem I have heard repeatedly from friends who use Verizon.

Thanks

[aleksgollu]

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marsupilami wrote:

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Natashia86 wrote:

Hello aleksgollu! Unfortunately, preinstalled applications can not be removed from the phone. 

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Hi Natashia,

You seem to be a Verizon Employee...

Could you please provide us with an official policy from Verizon (and if it applies to by Motorola/Google or Apple) about what level of privacy protection you provide to your phone owners.

Who is forcing applications and application controls onto the phone owners/user. Is it Verizon, is it the hardware manufacurer, is it the operating sytem owner. I do not want to just rely one one manager's statement "aleksgollu" seems to be quoting in this thread.

I know that when I download an application I have to go through a configuration and authorize the applications to have access to GPS etc.. I want to know what other private information verizon/motorola/google allow these applications, in addition to hardcoding these applications to the phone.

E.g. if my GPS is on will CityGuide will be simply given access to my location even if I will never use this application and do not want it to know my location? Will Verizon separately sell my user information to CityID or Blockbuster. Will these compamies based on my location be able to start sending me unwanted SMS messages or other e-mail?

Gettting unsolictied SMS messages has been a problem I have heard repeatedly from friends who use Verizon.

Thanks

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Why is Verizon not answering these questions? We know the site is moderated... How can attract I attention to the above questions?

My plant has ROOTs...

I like ROOT cause analysis

Have you read the book ROOTS

{edit for TOS violation}

[Wildman]

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aleksgollu wrote:

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Why is Verizon not answering these questions? We know the site is moderated... How can attract I attention to the above questions?

My plant has ROOTs...

I like ROOT cause analysis

Have you read the book ROOTS

{edit for TOS violation}

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Because this site is a peer to peer setup to allow users to share experiances and possible assist other resolve issues that they have already resolved, the moderators are usually just regular users that Verizon has decided to have watch that users are following the rules given by site agreement, the mods will have some information to handle some questions but they are not trained on answering and responding to polices, pricing or development questions.

[viking112347]

It has already been confirmed that none of the Verizon "apps" except personal hotspot will be loaded on the Iphone, though they will be available through the App Store,

[Wildman]

Out of curiousity, what is the source that you verified this with because I havent found any information related to what they will load on the up comingdevice.  Care to share?

[rcschnoor]

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marsupilami wrote:

Hi Natashia,

You seem to be a Verizon Employee...

Could you please provide us with an official policy from Verizon (and if it applies to by Motorola/Google or Apple) about what level of privacy protection you provide to your phone owners.

Who is forcing applications and application controls onto the phone owners/user. Is it Verizon, is it the hardware manufacurer, is it the operating sytem owner. I do not want to just rely one one manager's statement "aleksgollu" seems to be quoting in this thread.

I know that when I download an application I have to go through a configuration and authorize the applications to have access to GPS etc.. I want to know what other private information verizon/motorola/google allow these applications, in addition to hardcoding these applications to the phone.

E.g. if my GPS is on will CityGuide will be simply given access to my location even if I will never use this application and do not want it to know my location? Will Verizon separately sell my user information to CityID or Blockbuster. Will these compamies based on my location be able to start sending me unwanted SMS messages or other e-mail?

Gettting unsolictied SMS messages has been a problem I have heard repeatedly from friends who use Verizon.

Thanks

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If you never use CityGuide, it will never gain access to your information. Same with Blockbuster and any other bloatware on the phone. You have to USE it.

[Destry3535]

Actually you can rename them and they will not show. however they must be named back to origional or any upgrades can brick your phone. Cat / Mouse games have begun..

[crb79]

It is correct, you cannot uninstall them.  However you need not worry as their size is small and if you don't use them they will just be useless junk in the apps drawer.

The CityId will ask you to buy the app after it's free trial, just click no and it won't bother you any more.

[aleksgollu]

Size is one issue, using up real estate on the application list screen is another...

But ultimately it boils down to the following question: "Whose phone am I using"

If the answer is mine then I ask:

"Can I get some kick-backs for hosting unsolicited advertising on MY phone"

ALEKS...

[crb79]

Your kickbacks are given in the form of the rebate and discounted price you paid for the device.  Enjoy.

As I stated in response in the other thread, If you root your phone and remove those apps you run the risk of bricking your phone.  It also voids your warranty.

[LoydroidX]

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aleksgollu wrote:

Size is one issue, using up real estate on the application list screen is another...

 Wow!  You must have a whole heckuva lot of those apps.  I don't even notice the ones on mine. 

But ultimately it boils down to the following question: "Whose phone am I using"

If the answer is mine then I ask:

"Can I get some kick-backs for hosting unsolicited advertising on MY phone"

I believe LauncherPro will allow you to hide apps.  LP is a free app, and no...I'm not getting any kickbacks for suggesting it. 

I have channels on my TV that I never watch.  Wish I could get a break on my bill. 

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[aleksgollu]

Well to be precise, the equivalent gripe in the TV world is dish network choosing to record and lock 3 minute "we have a new  feature to use for you" segments on my DVR

[crimedoggies]

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aleksgollu wrote:

Size is one issue, using up real estate on the application list screen is another...

But ultimately it boils down to the following question: "Whose phone am I using"

If the answer is mine then I ask:

"Can I get some kick-backs for hosting unsolicited advertising on MY phone"

ALEKS...

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You knew when you CHOSE to purchase the phone that it had pre-installed apps that couldn't be removed, yet you still CHOSE to buy it.  If you didn't know, then YOU didn't do YOUR research and so you have nobody to complain to but yourself.  Either way, quite belly-aching about an issue that is a standard business practice everybody in the electronics world participates in from phones to computers to gaming consoles to cable boxes. 

[demmo86rt]

So, the short answer is, no, you cannot remove these apps from the phone, however, if you did happen to manage to get these particular apps off your phone, it would not stop functioning.

[gerio]

Dude, please. Just get rid of of the friggin' Verizon phone and get a phone from Sprint.

But wait...heavens to Betsy, Sprint puts un-installable apps on their phones, too. Glory be...

Well, you will just have to get an AT&T phone then.

But wait....gee willikers, Timmy, AT&T puts un-
installable apps on their phones, too. Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle, who knew...

Perhaps you try T-Mobile...no, wait, they....OKAY, this is getting old, have you figured out where this is
going yet?

Geri O

[guy_incognito]

{please keep your posts courteous}.

The original poster has a legitimate gripe about the bloatware that Verizon (and yes...all of the other carriers) force us to have on our phones. Verizon should give people the option of removing (or at the very least hiding) these applications so that we don't have to look at them anymore. I just switched to an Android phone a few weeks ago, but when I had my BlackBerry, I was able to hide all of the crap that I didn't use or want - so why shouldn't I be able to do the same on this phone? 

 {please keep your posts courteous}

[gerio]

Guy, it doesn't matter. Okay, get that? It doesn't matter. Legitimate or not.

This topic has been beat to death around here. It doesn't matter if your Blackberry spits out gold coins, for whatever reason, Verizon has decided to no allow these apps to be un-installed. 

And for 99% of us, that's fine and it's not a problem, even though I'll bet the most of are thinking "harrumph" at Verizon over the matter, just like I do. But it's not a problem or issue for that 99%. And when the 1% come in here, kicking and screaming about the offended sensibilities and moral damage that has been done because "IT'S MY PHONE!", then the response that you've seen is most likely what is gonna happen. 

Can't you guys protest the war or global warming or something else that might be significant?

Flame me, Flame Verizon, Flame out, whatever. Doesn't matter, it won't change (for the foreseeable future.)

Geri O

[crb79]

What some of these people don't realize is that this is a PEER to PEER Support forum.  Some do realize this and just can't seem to control themselves.  

Honestly, if you know how to fix your problem, GO FIX IT.  Don't brow beat the rest of us because your personal inadequacies with the device or the service.

If your BB was the best device ever, WHY DID YOU CHANGE???  

I really try to help people with their problems and stay impartial, just sharing the facts.  However, sometimes people just act very spoiled and down right silly.