Which one?

[mortb]

I currently have a Droid X, which I've had for about a year and a half. I am very happy with it and use it more than I do my laptop. I am wondering, when my time to upgrade arrives, which one? Right off, it will not be the Droid X2, that is for certain. Currently, it's between the Motorola Bionic and the Motorola Razr. There are only a few differences between the two. Cost is one of them. However, what bothers me about the Razr is that it has an unremoveable battery. Yes, I've had to do battery pulls on occasion. How many of you are bothered by the fact that a cell phone has an unremoveable battery? One reason I did not go for an IPhone.

[Cody21]

I agree - that would be a deal breaker for me as well.  I like being able to have a 'stand by' charged battery for travelling.  I'm in the same boat as you and am just planning on holding out for a while -- maybe even for all of 2012 just to see what other options become available.  I just don't care for the Camera on the DROID platform - it is way too lethargic and the quality of the pics just aren't there for me. Thankfully I don't use it as my primary picture capture device vs. my DSLR. Then there's the whole issue of getting timely & WORKING OS updates. The whole Froyo & GB thing has left a sour taste for me ... although overall I am fairly happy and like the DX - it's just that the MOTO OS updates seems to lag & they aren't listening to us.  So I'll just wait and see & research over the next year and make the decision when I'm ready; or my DX dies.  God luck & let us know what you deicde & your experience.

[HappyJackDaddy]

I, too, wonder about the non-removable battery.  I wouldn't be worried so much about the battery needing to be replaced, as I've never had to replace a cell phone battery.  They've always lasted as long as I've had the phone, and I typically keep them well past the earliest upgrade opportunity. But just the other day my DX just wouldn't wake up after I had just been using it and had hit the top button to shut off the screen.  It would't respond to anything.  I'm not griping about the phone -- I love it!  But I did a quick battery pull and all was well.  That's a rare event lately, but I wonder what I would have done if it was the Razr.  Maybe there's a reset button or something?  I don't know.  I agree with how you've kind of narrowed it down to the Bionic or the Razr.  I like Motorola products.  Sure, there are issues, but I think they're worse with other manufacturers.  I like Motorola.  I just do.

[mortb]

Comparing the Bionic to the Razr, except for depth, they are fairly equal in size. The other big difference is in the front facing camera. The Razr has a 1.3 MP while the Bionic has a VGA (not HD). The last big difference is that the Bionic is $50 cheaper. If you want to throw the HTC Thunderbolt into the mix, that is $150 cheaper, but has less memory, thicker in depth and smaller in Height and Width. The Thunderbolt is not even being considered. I like both Motorola and LG brands. As far as I'm concerned, they are the two top brands. Samsung products come in a distant third. I do not know enough about HTC to comment on it. Never owned one. I wonder what the Nokia smartphone is like. I remember when Nokia was King.

[bearone21]

bionic has a lot of issues on their forum & the razor is out today.

i'll let the dust settle before even considering a jump.

[mortb]

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bearone21 wrote:

bionic has a lot of issues on their forum & the razor is out today.

i'll let the dust settle before even considering a jump.

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You're right, let the dust settle. I have time before I can update. As for the Bionic Forum, I just now checked it out. Several of the complaints weren't even Bionic related. In fact there was one from a Samsung owner. Quite a few of these complaints appear to be Gingerbread related, the same problems a lot of people with Droid X's are experiencing since the release of GB. A few of them could come under the title, "Shot myself in the foot." In other words, self-inflicted errors. I'm still leaning toward the Bionic instead of the Razr. BTW, there are some revues on the Razr since some got their's on the 9th instead of today..

[B33]

Well i got a Hands on look at a Razr yesterday before it was re-leased to the Public an i'll have to say its got a nice wide screen an i like the the way the buttons were mounted on the side an i also liked the way the way the HDMI an the plug in for the charger is an the camera is a little more snappier than Bionic. But there were a few things i could've done without or i wished Motorola would've done Different.

1. Is the side slot for the Mini Sim Card an Sd Card when i opened it to see how they were housed in there they wanted to come out an when they were trying there best to do it. It caused the Razr to want to repower up so i think moto could of found a better way to pute them in there an if your a type that likes to open the side slot alott it'll were the plastic into after many opening an closings or it looks like it could. 

2. since the battery is not changable an they're using what there calling a Kevlar back it does make the phone extreemly light i can take my battery out of my X an the Razr is still lighter than it. in one way this is good in another way i like my phones to weigh alittle more than that. But i still like the Razr

3.This is a thing i noticed an then seen it pointed out on A C is that when on the Google market or when you Downloading something on the Internet it promps you to use Wi-Fi instead of using the Network an this does this more than once to some it's going to be a Neusence but i did'nt look farther into it to see if there was a way to shut that fature off i asuming there is but if it can't as i said it may drive some Nuts an on A C they said that the Rezound may have this Feature as well as Verizon is trying to get us to Use Wi-Fi more than the Network.

All in all the phone looks good i did'nt get to do a hole Bunch with it as a few others wanted to play with it so i Gave it up. But i will go back an look an try out some more features in future Visits to the Store an i can't waite till the Rezound comes out as well to check it out. B33 

[B33]

If you would like a more indeph look at the Razr head over to the ifixit Webpage or just click on the Linc i provided here an you can Really  Wow! ... See the inside of it . Kind of Cool actually but i bet it was fun putin it Back Together ! . 

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-RAZR-Teardown/7048/1

[SteelerFan]

O ordered a Razr today. The lady I spoke with at Verizon made a good point, wht would Motorola and Verizon sell this phone if the battery life were that bad since they would be gettina alot of returns. I will see on Tuesday

[mortb]

All depends on what you call bad. All smartphone batteries are not the greatest in lifetime. My point isn't the fact of short lifespan, but there are times that you must do a battery pull. Since I have had my Droid X I've had to do two or three of them. Hard to do a battery pull if you can't get to the battery.

[bearone21]

steeleerfan:

have you heard the question of how can you tell if a lawyer or car salesman is lying to you, "his lips are moving".

[mortb]

Now that the manual is out on the Motorola site, I see something else that bothers me. The power button is on the right side of the case and not the top. If you like holding your phone high, you can accidently turn your Razr off in the middle of a conversation. I alson don't care for this feature.

[B33]

An un-boxing of the Razr that did'nt fare well with the Crew from A.C. here's the Link to it.

But with any phone this can Happen. B33

http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-razr-unboxing-gods-are-not-pleased

[mortb]

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B33 wrote:

An un-boxing of the Razr that did'nt fare well with the Crew from A.C. here's the Link to it.

But with any phone this can Happen. B33

http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-razr-unboxing-gods-are-not-pleased

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Thanks for the link. The first one sure didn't look promising; however, they had a second unboxing clip. Watched that one and this guy had no problems. So far the Razr is second compared to the Bionic. The two things which bother me is that the battery is unremoveable and having the power on button on the side. I can picture me accidently shutting off the phone in the middle of a conversation.

[SteelerFan]

bearone,

I called in with an issue with the ringer on my DX and the lady I spoke with at VZW was very nice and replaced it. We were talking about the Razr and I told her I was thinking about getting one. She told me she would call me when it was out and I could order it. She texted me last week to let me know she would call me on the 10th to order. She actually called me on the 11th at 11:11 and I placed the order. If there were going to be major issues with the phone I doubt she would have followed through but who knows. At any rate I will have 14 days anyway.

[Cody21]

I thought there was a restocking FEE if you decide to return it in that 14 day window?

[B33]

My thoughts as well but as with anything Cody one day they offer it one way the next day you walk in it's another Kind of way. like when i ask how much a Sd card is One Rep. Tells me it's $69.99 an No we don't give you the Break like on line Does but then you Talk to another rep. an he or she looks it up an O-boy it's only $49.99 tell me if that don't French a persons Gizzerd.!     It does me an makes feel sometimes like Geri's Quote wich way is up ^^ B33

[SteelerFan]

Hopefully I will be very happy with the phone and will not need to return it.