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verizon why did you delete my post
kasperman1
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all i want is the same rights as any android phone user. why wont you unlock my bootloader. i will keep posting till i get a response

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budone
Sr. Leader
Sr. Leader

Eh???? VZW does not lock it, particular manufacturers do though. Moto being one I know of.

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kasperman1
Member

moto phones on other networks can unlock the bootloaders. honestly i dont care if verizon says no insurance and warranty void ect. just give us the choice. if i go buy a computer im not forced to stay with the operating system on said computer. i can change it.

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budone
Sr. Leader
Sr. Leader

I see that comparison alot. The difference is the maker of the computer is not tied to a network. VZW IS protective of their network and can state how or if a phone can be changed or not if it is to be on their network. Things done to a phone CAN affect their network.

Their ball, their bucket and shovel, their sandbox. Ya want to play in it, ya have to abide by the rules they set OR go elsewhere. They are not demanding you stay.

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kasperman1
Member

"(b)(1) Insofar as such use [open access] would not be compliant with published technical standards reasonably necessary for the management or protection of the licensee’s network." this is from the fcc block c regulations. please explain to me how it is reasonably necessary for the management or protection

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breezex
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budone wrote:

I see that comparison alot. The difference is the maker of the computer is not tied to a network. VZW IS protective of their network and can state how or if a phone can be changed or not if it is to be on their network. Things done to a phone CAN affect their network.

Their ball, their bucket and shovel, their sandbox. Ya want to play in it, ya have to abide by the rules they set OR go elsewhere. They are not demanding you stay.

I agree "Their ball, their bucket and shovel", but I like to think that the "sandbox" belongs to the American people via ownership and regulation by the US Government through the FCC and Congress.  Kasperman1 I'm beginning to think that the only way to effect change is through the FCC and Congress.  Both Verizon and Motorola will continue to do as they please until forced to do otherwise.  They are doing well enough financially to not worry about a few unhappy complainers.  But those few unhappy complainers if organized could have a large effect on the US political system and in turn the FCC.

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kasperman1
Member

the fcc regulations state

Open applications: Consumers should be able to download and utilize any software applications, content, or services they desire;

Open devices: Consumers should be able to utilize a handheld communications device with whatever wireless network they prefer;

(b)(1) Insofar as such use [open access] would not be compliant with published technical standards reasonably necessary for the management or protection of the licensee’s network. 47 CFR §27.16

(c)(1) Standards shall include technical requirements reasonably necessary for third parties to access a licensee’s network via devices or applications without causing objectionable interference to other spectrum users or jeopardizing network security. 47 CFR §27.16


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budone
Sr. Leader
Sr. Leader

Apps are different than what you suggest.

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B33
Sr. Leader

I agree with you Budone

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rcschnoor
Sr. Leader
Sr. Leader

I can only assume that you are also complaining to the FCC, since THEY would be the ones to enforce these policies IF Verizon is in fact non-compliant.

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