I've heard from Verizon that the ICS update is suppose to be release at the end of July or in August. Has anyone seen it already? I'm wanting to know if it is going be better than the current OS.
My main complaint about the ICS update is the removal of Flash - mine is totally gone, it isn't just hiding. Hulu+ no longer works and the same for several other streaming video apps. Or rather, the apps work fine until they try to launch the video itself and then I get either the little blue cube or an error message. Flash capability was one of the main reasons I bought the Thunderbolt - NOT HAPPY. Of all of the things that changed, this is the deal-breaker for me. I understand why Verizon doesn't want to support it in the long run (seeing as how Adobe isn't) but, give us the option to keep it. Don't treat us like children and take it away without warning.
The lag time between choosing an app and actually getting into it is more than it was before and is annoying though boot up time is much reduced. However, I rarely had to reboot before so it isn't that much of a gain.
The lock screen clock options suck. I chose the HTC large digital for my home screen and liked it for my lock screen too. However, that is no longer an option and the only digital clock option is ugly and the numbers aren't as large. The functionality is almost lost.
Also, some - not all - of my app icons disappeared from my screen pages. The apps are still there with no change; the icons just got deleted for some bizarre reason.
Last but not least, my battery life just took a nose-dive. Had it plugged in at work all day but after 2 hours at home with only checking email and social media briefly, it needed to be charged again. Normally I wouldn't have to charge it until the next morning and that is with heavy usage including audio or video streaming.
I really like my Thunderbolt so if things don't improve soon, I'll be searching Google to see about reverting. P.S. I have done everything short of a factory reset which I refuse to do (long story on that.)
Are you sure that Flash player isn't still installed? Taken as a screenshot from my Tbolt.
My phone updated to ICS sometime during the early morning while I was still asleep. I haven't had any noticeable problems yet. (Except when I couldn't turn my alarm off because it was unfamiliar)
how long does the update take to install? my phone has been stuck for an hour doing nothing.
I had to take the battery out of mine to get it to finish. I hate this new update.
It took approximately twenty minutes for the the update to finish on my Tbolt.
this update fucked up my phone, when i manually updated it through settings, half way through the download it would freeze my phone and would have to pull the battery. then when it restarted again it would give me a 30 second window of when i could use it until the download resumes and it would freeze my phone again, had to do a factory reset, but holding the power button with the down volume button on startup , erased everything. then a few days later it automatically found the update and tried to download again overnight and woke up with a frozen phone. What a stupid update, and oh yeah verizon says basically theres nothing i can do for you, your warrantee is expired and cant force the update through a download, etc. cant beleive i was a loyal customer for almost 10 years.
Verizon is about to lose a whole lot of faithful customers. Me first!
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone
If you had a lot of text messages on your phone before the update, it seems like it's going to take the TBolt a long time to update them. Too bad Verizon or HTC didn't forewarn anyone. Mine took hours to update but, after a few days of ICS settling in, the phone has settled down quite a bit. Let's hope it stays that way!
TBoltOwner wrote:Mine took hours to update but, after a few days of ICS settling in, the phone has settled down quite a bit.
TBoltOwner wrote:
Mine took hours to update but, after a few days of ICS settling in, the phone has settled down quite a bit.
Good point, TBoltOwner ... ICS is a major OS update, and when other phones (such as the Droid Razr and Bionic) updated, it took several days for the phones to optimize. Performance was sluggish and battery life was worse for a few days, but then things settled down. Hopefully the same will be true for the TBolt.
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That tag may be there, but I am certain it is gone. It was announced when this flavor was coming out, Google was pulling Flash from the OS
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I have had the ICS update since it became available but I finally have hit my first issue. I cannot get a consistent bluetooth connection with the hands free in my 2008 Audi. It paired fine and will connect but then the connection drops after some minutes of time (and yes I have the visibility time out set to never timeout). My other car, a 2006 Audi, has been consistent in its bluetooth connection. On GB, I had zero issues with bluetooth. Only thing I haven't tried is a factory reset but I am reluctant to do that as I don't feel like re-installing all my employers apps. Also, I was planning to get a new device in the coming 3-4 months anyway. Any ideas to try short of a reset?
budone wrote:That tag may be there, but I am certain it is gone. It was announced when this flavor was coming out, Google was pulling Flash from the OSSent from my iPad
budone wrote:
When the Razrs and Bionics received ICS, if the phones had Flash, they still have Flash.
The update started on my phone today it came up with the new screen and they turned itself off and now it will not come back on. I have tried to restart my phone by pulling the battery and the sim card and all it does is go to the HTC screen. it will vibrate twice and turn back off. I have tried to even have it plugged in. I had a 90% charge on my battery.
wonder if someone is going to sue verizon for these tactics, for messing up perfectly good phones, especially if they cant help you and basically you have to get a different phone, and update comes automatically dont even ask if you want to update
look over the forums, everyone is asking for an update to every phone.
there are always people that say sue, even class action
no one ever follows through
You have the Tbolt, right? How's ICS working for you?
no issues, but i have very few apps, and clear out sms and calls alot
not worth it, it freezes during download for mine, other people have lots of problems, some movies dont play, some have trouble with messages, etc
hi everyone, i had many troubles with my TB after ICS update. (couldn't connect WIFI, couldn't send pics via texts, very slow response, etc.) after i had read this thread, i did the factory reset ( boot up a phone as pushing both volume-up & -down keys, then follow instructions on the display.) now, ICS works very smoothly without any troubles, and my apps work well, too. (* i had few texts and call history when i did the factory reset.) good luck!
I have noticed that updating apps, either via LTE or WiFi, is excruciatingly slow --- anyone else?
I had all sorts of problems with the ICS update. Slow apps. Loss of wireless connection. Data calls not working at all. In desperation I finally bit the bullet and did a factory reset. Backed up everything backupable first. Took several hours to reinstall all 97 apps. I must say, however, now that it's just about restored, it seems to be working very well. Wireless working well; data calls available; apps respond at least as quickly as pre-ICS. So, if you're not happy with the upgrade on your device, go for the reset.
Still hit or miss with the Tbolt after theICS update. Sometimes it's fast, sometimes it's slow. Still haven't done a factory reset, but I may just try that to see if it does help.
Had my first real scare. I rebooted and it came up saying I need to activate my phone..... Luckily another reboot took care of that. And worse case, I have an extra SIM card sitting here if needed
The ICS update did not solve the "randomly power down at least 12 times a day" behavior of my TBolt. And I cannot get my Mail linked to my Yahoo account no matter how many times I try, how perfect the signal strength is, or how many times I reset my Yahoo password online.
HTC TBolt = JUNK!
I decided to reboot the Tbolt for the first time at work since the ICS. Thanks to the building construction and general number of users in the area, the phone decided to connect to the 1xRTT and EVO Rev A network instead of the usual eRPD (3G) and LTE (4G). I will be going outside during lunch to see if I can get it to switch back. The EDVO Rev A keeps disconnecting so much that it reminds me of the months leading to when LTE was first turned on here. Ugh!
Same here
I managed to get 4G LTE during lunch, but in the building it's again EDVO Rev A.
Almost did a factory reset today, but then I deleted theScore (formerly Score Moble) app, which I noticed as one that always ran in the background whether had it open or not. The phone's been unbelievably fast since then...hmmm.........
My replacement phone downloaded the ICS update while I was driving home. Since then it has been incredibly slow. It took 5 minutes between trying to dial a number and the number actually dialing.
I got the same problem today, and re-booting it fixed the problem. But it didn't fix any of the other problems. ICS is slow, big and has really killed the whole experience of owning this phone. My T-bolt was just perfect on Gingerbread. Now it's a slow-motion catastrophe.
So Ive been watching and reading all the post. First I would like to say, don't forget how much everyone was looking forward to the update. You wouldn't know it by reading the post. Second, yes, ICS does load some of the apps a bit slower. However, the overall performance is not slowed enough for complaints unless you have too much junk on the phone in the first place. I use my phone for work and personal and have numerous apps and some are very heavy. Everything still works fine. I did have to update a couple for the new operating system but nothing major. The added features have more than made up for any minor slow downs. I am still very pleased with the Thunderbolt and have no legitimate complaints with the performance of ICS. I also think that if you clean up your system and make sure your apps are compatible with ICS you will find that you too have nothing to complain about.
I wish it were only one app causing my problem. But there is no way to tell without deleting 100+apps. Since the update, Google Calendar does not sync. Every outgoing text message take 5-10 to exit--IF it does exit, as many do not. Also, I am not getting half the incoming texts. After going through a lengthy diagnostic with HTC--including putting the phone in safe mode--it was determined that the OS is the culprit and nothing can be done about it other than maybe doing a factory reset, which I refused to do. If basic internal apps like the weather, messaging, and the phone operate in slow motion or operate only part of the time when in safe mode, then a factory reset will do nothing to improve performance. The HTC rep told me to wait a few weeks for Google to (maybe) put out a service release, but doubt anything (other than a reversal back to gingerbread) will help T-bolt owners now. ICE is wayyyy too big and heavy for a phone this old. Shame on Google for forcing this onto the unsuspecting masses, and especially for not very thoroughly testing ICE on the T-bolt before doing so. They have all the money in the world, and should have parted with a spec of it for testing and refining. I suggest everyone call HTC customer service and complain. They are compiling a list of complaints and will send them to Google. Maybe it will help, who knows.
I've been following this thread, and holding off on the update for as long as I could, for worry that it would trash my phone to the point that it would be unusable. I really like the Thunderbolt, and have held off on upgrading to anything else because the others I've looked into seem to be missing some features that I like about this phone, even the new DNA, unfortunately.
I'd been turning my phone off at night so the update wouldn't download and install, but I forgot on Friday and it finally caught up to me on Saturday morning, and I was forced to update. Knew I couldn't hold off forever. As a side note, we're a business customer, and I don't particularly care for that forced upgrade policy/procedure, but I have to say that after giving the ICS update some time to settle in, and after a few restarts and making a few adjustments here and there, updating some apps, etc., figuring out what's changed, etc., it's actually working quite well and a rather pleasing update. to the people experiencing problems, that's really crummy, I can understand the anxiety and frustration, and yes, try the factory reset as noted in post 246 here above mine.
One of the things that was holding me back from allowing the update was that I was thinking I'd lose the functionality of the softkeys on the bottom of the phone. this key functionality is one of the things that has set this device apart from others for me, esp the iPhone and some other Motorola devices at the time the Thunderbolt was released. I had the HTC Eris before that, which is where I got hooked on HTC's Sense UI. I'll follow HTC for as long as they keep up the pleasing, intuitive, and functional interfaces that are tasteful and not contrived, cheesy, or overdone. I just wish Verizon would let HTC do its thing and not cripple its devices with the bloatware and this business of the omission of the memory expansion on the DNA, but that's another conversation.
Anyway, just dropping in a few lines to say that it seems to be working okay for me, and I'm actually enjoying it. For the screen capture function alone, it was worth it. I've been wanting this for ages.
htc has a big event tomorrow and i'd LOVE to see them roll out a "One" line of devices that will be fairly universal across all carriers (much like the galaxy line from samsung). i think they need to do this to stay in the game. i've had 2 htc's and loved both of them and while Sense is a bit heavy, in my opinion it is still the best Skin out there for an android device. i went with the gsiii for my wife and the note ii for me this past fall though, because verizon didn't get a version of the One line and, as you mentioned, the DNA has no sd slot, which makes it unusable to me. i'm really hoping they give us something that will make me go back to htc for my next phone. they make a solid product. with all of the issues the tbolt had, it was the first LTE phone on the market, and it was htc that brought it. personally, my tbolt was just fine. had very few problems with it, but i no longer used it by the time the official ICS update was pushed.
Yes, I was very disappointed that Verizon didn't take the HTC One devices, as well. I think that's when I began to lose confidence in the decision makers at Verizon. Worse, there was no explanation as to why, and HTC fans were left wondering when there'd be another device available to us. I had to assume it was because something better was coming, but ultimately, it (DNA) wasn't better. It went too long without any information, in my opinion, and I feel sorry for HTC because that lack of SD expansion killed the DNA for a lot of die-hard HTC users, and many have been forced to move on to other devices, like yourself.
We had a few users up for renewal and had to put them on other devices because there weren't any new HTC devices out at the time, and we certainly weren't going to put them on year old technology to ride out a two year contract. We went with Galaxy S3's and some Motorola Razr M devices. The users seem to enjoy them, but I didn't much care for the TouchWiz UI on the Galaxy devices. I find it to be loose and "wasteful", display wise. I prefer tighter spacing/density on displays, and I haven't seen anyone top HTC's widgets yet, at least imho with regard to design. Anyway, before I decided to keep the Thunderbolt a while longer, I had it narrowed down to the Galaxy S3, DNA and the Galaxy Note II, as you mentioned you went with. The Note II would have been my choice, as I'd played around with the Galaxy Note 10.1, and fell in love with the S Pen - best implementation of a stylus I've seen yet. Ultimately the Note 10.1 went back to the store though, because I found it too big, and without high enough resolution. If they make a 7 or 8" Note, I'll look again, but again, another discussion.
The Galaxy does have a nicer camera than the Thunderbolt, in my opinion. I hope HTC doesn't give up on Verizon, haha, and keeps putting out stellar devices, and that Verizon just steps back and doesn't get too involved. I think the speculative rumor is that Verizon told HTC to pull the SD capability to be able to nudge users to more streaming use to sell data plans.
Anyway, fire up that old Thunderbolt if you still have it to mess with! I wonder if it would pull the update down over Wifi. prob not, as it probably needs to be connected to the VZW network, I think.
Since the update, I've had to completely reset twice - both times
because of the 16-18 wait between changing applications.
Thankfully, the Google Play store keeps a history of past apps so that I
could reinstall them again. Of course, I have far fewer installed than I
did before the ICS debacle. All was well - until last evening the
dreaded wait for it... wait for it... to change screens started again.
The only thing I did before this was to adjust some of the Google-email
settings as I prefer to use the plain email app. Sigh.... I won't be
happy to have to do this for the 3rd - 50th time.
As for the reset - there is a method of using the volume and off/on
button, but you can also to this via the storage entry under settings --
look at the end for "Factory data reset." It may be a good idea to see
if you have a stored history with your Google Play and Amazon apps if
applicable as it certainly speeds up restoring the things that you liked.
I feel as though I'm being held captive by Verizon - and I know how much
they care about customers. My contract runs out next mo. but I
won't be eligible for less than a $$$$ phone until July. To make it
better, the other user on the account is on the hook, as it were, until
June 2014. Fortunately, the other phone while HTC is a Rezound with non
of the current Thunderbolt issues. I've looked into changing my account
to another carrier - but paying cell phone two bills is not fiscally
prudent. So, I can end and freely walk away from my decades of Verizon
service in a year and a half.
As an addendum: I bought the TB from Amazon at $100 less than through
the Verizon store.
