Do not upg to Android 5.1 right now if you depend on your phone

[bdstx4]

Do not upgrade to Android 5.1 right now if you depend on that Droid Turbo phone to work. All of these painful bugs and changes on how to use remind me

of going to v4.0 and later to v4.4. They are normal and really drag out with Android versions. Primarily it is a Google Android issue and not a Motorola issue.

Once you feel comfortable going to Android v5.x, there are some fundamental changes in how you use the phone. You need to know and read about these in advance. Search and read about them.

Every new operating system comes with changes in use and bugs. All of them. Without any exceptions. Servers down to Phones.

So do not be caught in all this Android drama and bugs and questions on how to use. Just wait until things work. Things that work and you know how to

use is very much more important than latest state of the art.

Respectfully

[Davidoo]

Please list the issues you are having that fundamentally change how you use the phone.  I have had the 5.1 update since it came out with no issues.  Sure, some of the menus are different such as the top pull down, and pressing the volume key to put the phone on vibrate, but nothing that changes phone calls, email or using the internet. 

[bdstx4]

Well as a long time IT person and a long time Verizon and Android user I am speaking for the average user. And most users should wait. Your message sounds like you want to take it small issue/item by small item. Because you do not have any new use issues or bugs. Just read this VZ forum and Motorola forum to know different. Many problems in use

and bugs. Nothing new about that.

What concerns me is response post like yours. It makes things seem universally easier to switch to than they really are. Can you really say or imply that every Android v4 starting has not been painful and drawn out for users?

Can you say it is not best advice for most users to wait for the update? Because you are not having problems.

Respectfully

[Ann154]

I have Lollipop 5.1+ on three different devices and I don't have issues. Some of these devices started out on an older version of Android. I didn't have issues then either.

[bdstx4]

Are you a Verizon employee Davidoo?

Respectfully

[bdstx4]

This Verizon Community Support website is for beginners. You should advise based on beginners. People want the most detail about the phone, look in Motorola's forums. They actually make the phones.

Respectfully

[Snn5]

You mean, a site like this?  Devices

[Davidoo]

bdstx4 posted...."Are you a Verizon employee Davidoo?

Respectfully"

Ha ha, that is a good one.  I am certainly not a VZW employee.  I just answered your post where you said the update fundamentally changed how you use the phone and I asked you to list some items you were talking about.

I also read some of your other posts since then, and I offer the following opinions.  I'm not sure why you are advising people to "wait" before installing the update.  Why?  Lollipop isn't going to change.  It is the Google devised OS for the phones.  Every update has changes.  Just because a few don't like it they are not going to change it.  Sure, there will be some bug fixes and there will be tweaks (possibly we will get 5.1.1 or 5.2 for the Turbo) but that could be months or never.  After all, it took 9 months to get this update.  Waiting isn't going to change anything.

I also disagree that you can't be forced to take the update.  I always take the update right away, but I know of others for a fact that kept postponing the update and after a while it was "forced" on them.  I don't know how long this is, whether it is 20 days, 30 days or whatever, but it will happen, maybe when you leave your phone unattended for a while or during the night, but the update will occur. 

[KellyArens]

While I agree that there is a learning curve here and I do think this version of Android is less user friendly then previous version, unless you think we are all idiots, I think we can figure it out.  Now if you are referring to some of the bugs that make the phone unusable, then I can see your point, but if you are just implying that people are to dumb to figure out the new functions, that is just downright insulting.  I rely on my phone for A LOT as I am self-employed and I was able to figure it out. 

[bdstx4]

Reply to KellyArens, I am also self employed IT for many years. Real world users just want stuff to work, not know how it works. This is very intelligent people that have company and family lives. End users are not stupid, they just limit their study efforts.

So am I am not implying anyone is stupid.

Respectfully

[bdstx4]

I did not say anyone was dumb. And just because you figured it out does not at all mean that will be the average

user experience. My god, all I did was recommend that users wait a few months.  So I am being accused of wrong doing and advice. How in the hell could it possibly hurt to wait a few months?

[Snn5]

Most users cannot wait a few months as most updates that are pushed OTA will either download and/or install automatically at some point.  I have heard that some Samsung phones can avoid for longer based upon unique settings.

[bdstx4]

Verizon has NEVER forced a system update. All this will do is notify you that a system update is available. It cannot be automatically or even manually installed without you agreeing to it. Lets dispel this myth right now.

[Snn5]

Okey dokey   I'll just speak from my experience, no one else's then.

[bdstx4]

And users can wait a few months for a OS update that works. It's done all the time and not just Android.

[Davidoo]

                                               bdstx4     Jul 17, 2015 8:55 PM    (in response to Snn5)    

"Verizon has NEVER forced a system update. All this will do is notify you that a system update is available. It cannot be automatically or even manually installed without you agreeing to it. Lets dispel this myth right now."

This is absolutely incorrect.  Verizon can't have devices on their system running all kinds of different operating systems.  This would be a nightmare for their support people and systems.  You can "google" or "yahoo" search this and see there are a number of articles confirming you will be forced to update eventually.  I'm a member of the Android Central Forums as well as the Motorola Droid Turbo forums and this has been confirmed there several times.  The only way to avoid an update is to modify your phone in ways that are not allowed to be discussed on this forum. 

[KellyArens]

I couldn't agree with you more Davidoo.  Telling others to wait is not really the answer.  Actually it hurts things.  If there really are issues that can be fixed with another update, the more that get reported the better.  The other issue that was not mentioned is that with so many third part apps on android, there is no guarantee that your phone will completely work with any update.  This is especially true if you are using third party apps for email, texting, etc. I am not saying it will be a problem, just that there is no guarantee that any update will be completely compatible with apps on your phone. No matter how long you wait there might be problems and there will always be a learning curve.  If people don't like that then go by an iPhone.

[Snn5]

iPhone has it's share of issues as well.

[bdstx4]

As of 7-21-15 lots of replies here disagreeing with me. By Android enthusiast. Nothing wrong with waiting 2-3 months to install the update. You risk nothing.

All of these statements that VZ will force the update on you are not true.

And Davidoo I read your post as well, it is not like you have posted detailed guides is it on anything?. Anyone can join

various Android forums. That is not at all a resume of experience.

I recommend caution, these other people just say jump in, you will figure it out.

[bdstx4]

Could it be any clearer than this for people to wait 2 or 3 months?

http://news.google.com/news/url?sr=1&ct2=us%2F1_0_s_17_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNGA7Jzg3AvuDz9fFyR2JM0Tp75-...

It is MotoX and ATT, but it is still Android v5.1

These are instabilities in Android 5.1, not Motorola.

Research online why Motorola skipped from 5.0 to 5.1