Android 4.0.4 OTA?
fratstar91
Newbie

I know some galaxy nexus LTE users have already received the OTA 4.0.4 but does anyone know when Verizon will fully push it out to everyone? Verizon technical support also confirmed to me that the rollout process has begun, I just want to know when the majority of users will have it pushed out to their device

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Tidbits
Legend

Flaw here. Then why does the other Galaxy Nexus have the same versions? Why is 4.0.5 being worked on? Google isn't finished...

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myandroidlife
Enthusiast - Level 2

hi, there! you're given the lastest Android 4.o update for galaxy nexus? if it is convenient for you, kindly please let me know. by the way, anyone here can help how to update software/upgrade system while you are roaming. Smiley Happy thank you.

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DroidudeAZ
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I spoke to a Verizon tech a few days ago and they said that they are expecting to push out a software update sometime this month that address radio connection and strength, onscreen keyboard improvements and some other things. She seemed on the ball. Then again, someone at Verizon said that an update for the G Nex was coming sometime in February....

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pfs78
Enthusiast - Level 2

4.0.4 was officially released to the GNEX GSM and a few other recent devices, now we must wait for verison to rip it apart/test it and then send it out

http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-0-4-ics-rolling-out-for-nexus-s-xoom-and-galaxy-nexus-20120328...

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Tidbits
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Verizon doesn't rip it apart...

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pfs78
Enthusiast - Level 2

They may have to if it doesn't work when they test it, or at least send it back and let google do it

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Tidbits
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Nope they send it back to Google/Samsung as they are the manufacturer of the device.

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Rider
Enthusiast - Level 3

Verizon you really should be ashamed of yourself.  Let Google handle the updates as was the implication in your carrying the "pure" Google experience phone!!!

Tidbits
Legend

Like the G2X? You have a misunderstanding like 90% of the people who bought a Nexus Line device.

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Rider
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Tidbits,

I'm not sure what you are saying is the process for Gnex Verizon users to get updates. 

First when Brewnote' said that:

"Google releases Android updates, but Verizon is responsible for scheduling the OTA update.  I have been in touch with Google directly on this after submitting a bug report which was fixed in 4.0.3.  I don't know why Verizon is stalling."

You said:

"That is false.  Google does the updates and pushes the updates on their own.  It's no different with the Nexus One, Nexus S, and Galaxy Nexus.  It has always been pushed off their own servers, and there is NOTHING Verizon can do to stop them."

Now your reply to my comment that:

Verizon should "Let Google handle the updates as was the implication in [Verizon] carrying the "pure" Google experience phone!!!"

By saying that:

"You have a misunderstanding like 90% of the people who bought a Nexus Line device."

1) What is your position as to how updates are to be delivered to Verizon Gnex customers?

2) Do you feel that mechanism (as you understand it) is fair and/or appropriate?

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Tidbits
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Rider wrote:

Tidbits,

I'm not sure what you are saying is the process for Gnex Verizon users to get updates. 

First when Brewnote' said that:

"Google releases Android updates, but Verizon is responsible for scheduling the OTA update.  I have been in touch with Google directly on this after submitting a bug report which was fixed in 4.0.3.  I don't know why Verizon is stalling."

You said:

"That is false.  Google does the updates and pushes the updates on their own.  It's no different with the Nexus One, Nexus S, and Galaxy Nexus.  It has always been pushed off their own servers, and there is NOTHING Verizon can do to stop them."

Now your reply to my comment that:

Verizon should "Let Google handle the updates as was the implication in [Verizon] carrying the "pure" Google experience phone!!!"

By saying that:

"You have a misunderstanding like 90% of the people who bought a Nexus Line device."

1) What is your position as to how updates are to be delivered to Verizon Gnex customers?

2) Do you feel that mechanism (as you understand it) is fair and/or appropriate?

People has a misunderstanding on what a Google Experience device is.  It doesn't mean updates will always come quicker.  It doesn't mean it has no  bloatware.  It doesn't mean everything is integrated with Google services.  LG G2X is the prime example of what I said.  It's a GOOGLE EXPERIENCE device and is no different than the Nexus in that regard.  The only difference the Nexus Line are actually DEVELOPER devices, but Google allows non developers to buy them which honestly gives a unrealistic expectation of the device and gives this persona like it'll always be updated all at the same times.

Google does everything when it comes to the Nexus Line. Updates come their own servers(4.0.4 leak came from there), and not Verizon FOTA servers unlike the updates for your conventional devices like the Droid 3 or Rezound.  So Verizon doesn't have to schedule anything.  If Verizon had control like people like to spin it because of other devices getting an update.  Verizon has NO control on what Qualcomm has with the drivers which belong to them.  Sprint is the same.  If you notice the updates are happening for GSM and wifi devices.  Nexus S 4G, and the Verizon Galaxy Nexus are CDMA devices and due to the agreement between Google and Qualcomm(which control the patents and software of CDMA) things have to be done differently.  This is out of the hands of Verizon and Sprint respectively. GSM is open source so Google can do as they please.

4.0.4 isn't completely 100% ready to go for the CDMA versions.  I have it installed on my Galaxy Nexus as well as 2 other Galaxy Nexus devices(coworkers), and we have different bugs, and I have not installed 4.0.4 on my GSM version as of yet so I can't say much about it.

Rider
Enthusiast - Level 3

Thank you for your detailed and **respectful** response.  If you are correct I would certainly argue that both Google and the Verizon should do a better job of communicating the process to users instead of treating us like mindless puppies chasing after the next shiny ball that they pull out of their pocket. 

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GameDiversity
Enthusiast - Level 3

Agree, if this statement is true "the only difference the Nexus Line are actually DEVELOPER devices," then this statement,

"Google and the Verizon should do a better job of communicating the process," is an understatement.

Moreover, I am confused why Verizon wouldn't clarify this distinction because they are now needlessly damaging their Brand image and why Google wouldn't clarify because, generally, non-developers would probably accept this clarification, and either be a) buy the phone any way and expect some bumps, b) not buy the phone because they are not "tinkers," or c) buy the phone and try out some "tinkering."

For example, if it is true that "the only difference [with] the Nexus Line [is that they are] DEVELOPER devices," I would definitely still keep the phone; not care about OTAs and simply try some modding for the fun of it.


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Tidbits
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It has ALREADY been said the Nexus line is for developers, but they will NOT stop consumers from buying them. It was said well over 3 years ago with the Nexus One. It was cheaper for Google to go this route to reduce production costs and to have the devices subsidized from their previous ADP devices and to ensure more developers would come to Android.

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zealious
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the factsare infront of you.. <please be courteous> why are you arguing verizon <please be courteous>.. even if itwasnt their fault i would still blame them.

so if verizon does not touch the ics release then how did google wallet get removed.. vz asked google and google decided to hurt them selves and agreed to remove it? <content deleted per the Verizon Wireless Community Terms of Service>

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Tidbits
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seriously Wallet again? There are two whole threads about wallet and why people blaming Verizon is stupid, when I get to a computer I can show you why and evidence that Verizon doesn't control the software or hardware.

On a computer now...  Here's the break down...

Verizon controls the hardware - Why is this false...

If Verizon truly controlled the hardware they could remove the secure element of the device.  End of discussion then Google Wallet would NEVER work on the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon.  Why would they want to remove it?  Isis uses the secure element on a sim card.  This right here would be Verizon blocking Google Wallet.  So why didn't they?  Answer is Verizon doesn't control the hardware.

Verizon controls the software - Why is this false...

There is one truly officially supported device from Google that has Wallet which isn't preinstalled just like the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have wallet(It is not part of the "Google Experience") and that's the Nexus S 4G.  So if it is NOT preinstalled on the Nexus S 4G what gives you the idea it will be preinstalled on the Galaxy Nexus?  Also if Verizon had control they could put more than MyVerizon and Backup.  Verizon may have requested those in an agreement to carry the device, but have no control on the software.  Also due to Isis if it is believed why it is blocked if Verizon controlled the software they could REMOVE the API's and anything associated while keeping Android beam intact for the secure element which would make Google Wallet not work.

So again how is Verizon blocking or removing Wallet?

To top is off...  Verizon and Google are working on a "commercial agreement".  Google disable wallet download until an agreement is met.  They are selling THEIR services and if Google really wanted they can make wallet work with Isis whether the secure element is on the device or the sim card.  It's not all that difficult.

I could go on and on about how vulnerable wallet is, and what you have read is just the tip of the iceberg.  I could show more, but I have already sent stuff to Google for potential fixes and better security(which some security flaws have been in Android since 2.1) and root is NOT required.  One advice I recommend turning off Debug and only turn it on WHEN you need to use it.

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