Google Wallet

[cheetos_mom]

When will we be able to use google wallet on our S3's?

[buttsderek32]

how can i watch espn3 on sIII

[budone]

buttsderek32 wrote:

how can i watch espn3 on sIII

If you have ESPN on your cable system and your system participates, download the Watch ESPN app and follow the instructions to see if you qualify.

[budone]

It wont. VZW has decided on ISIS.

[cheetos_mom]

Why? It only has a 1.4 rating on Google Play, not to mention you can only use Am Ex cards with it. 

Doesn't it make more sense to use Google Wallet?

[budone]

I suspect they are not getting a cut from Google, or not a large enough cut to justify it.

[demmo86rt]

Verizon decided to go with ISIS instead because they have a large stake in that company.  They also came to the determination that Wallet was not secure enough.  The main reason for the low rating is the fact that many users are giving it a 1-star rating simply because they don't have the option to use Wallet.  In this case, I would not consider that rating to be accurate to the app whatsoever.

[swandanson]

This app was one of the reasons I upgraded my old phone to the S4.

I'd like to hear from Verizon on what their current position is on the blocking of this app - What specifically does Google need to do to make it more secure to be used on their network?

[vzw_customer_support]

Hi Cheetos_mom,


Having the applications you need most is important! We have no information on Google Wallet availability. You can keep up with the latest device news here http://bit.ly/n5snpq . Check here to see if your device and account meet the requirements to use ISIS http://vz.to/PsTeiK .

Thanks,
PamelaF_VZW
Tweet us @vzwsupport

[Alphanerd82]

The answer to your question is simple, albeit asinine, and can be answered in one word. Never. Verizon, though if you call customer service will lead you to believe otherwise, has no intention of allowing the use of Google Wallet. They are pushing ISIS and will force their customers to use it or nothing else. Maybe, and this is a big maybe, they will one day realize I have an android over the ios because I like freedom. Until then, just assume that Google Wallet will never be implemented as the same responses from verizon have circled over the last year as they remain stagnant in removing said restriction. It's extremely frustrating and I plan on switching carriers once my contract is up as I will not be told what payments system I must use. Also, ISIS is only supported in certain areas, not nationwide if you check their website. Plus you cannot use Visa, Mastercard, or Discover.

[JoeKiv]

You are 100% correct.  The carrier should not have any say as to what NFC financial payment program a customer can use. It's well past time that the FCC took a look at this issue.  If the  carriers have a 'valid' reason for preventing use of a program then they should be required to present those reasons to the FCC.  If the FCC agrees then OK.  If not then the FCC should force them to stop and hold them liable for their actions up to now.

[demmo86rt]

According to Verizon, Wallet is not secure enough.

[JoeKiv]

When did my financial security become Verizon's concern.  Also, Sprint customers with NFC phones including the Galaxy S3 have been using Google Wallet for more than a year without any security issues. 

[Alphanerd82]

Verizon has been asked several times what these so called "security issues" are and have never given an answer. Also, ask yourself this question. If the security is not up to par then why is it that Visa, Mastercard, Discover, and Amex all allow use of their cards on google wallet? Do you really think all these companies would risk it if the program was that easy to breach? Lastly, as JoeKiv has pointed out, it is my decision, along with the banks and FCC, to decide if an app, program, or payment system is safe, NOT a phone carrier. As a side note, if you do your research, Verizon is in a joint venture with AT&T (infamously known for restricting it's customer base) and T-Mobile to develop ISIS. Now I ask you, are you really so gullible to believe that verizon is preventing use of google wallet because of security issues or could it possibly be that they are invested in making money off of ISIS( which by the way is only available to Austin, TX and Salt Lake City, UT).

[demmo86rt]

First, I never said whether or not I believe what Verizon says about Wallet, I was just telling you why it's not available.  Second, if you look at my earlier post in this thread, I know of Verizon's interests in ISIS.  Third, it's not Wallet itself that they claim to have an issue with, but rather, how it accesses the NFC chip.  Fourth, you can use ISIS in more than those two cities, those are just the only places you can get the secure NFC SIM in store.  You can order one over the phone and use ISIS in other cities.

Do not assume that I agree with a decision that Verizon has made just because I take the time to inform people of what that decision is.  The question was asked why Verizon disables the Wallet app, I was merely answering that question.  At the end of the day, that is their company line and it is apparently enough to allow them to keep restricting the use of the app.  No amount of ranting and raving on a peer to peer forum is going to change that.

[Todd_Hicken]

I live 2 hours north of Salt Lake City and picked up a secure sim card today.  You have to specifically ask for it as they don't advertise it.  Mind you it was in an effort to try to see if the tap and pay restriction on google wallet would disappear.

[demmo86rt]

Yes, same goes for if you call in, you have to specifically ask for the secure SIM.

[21stNow]

Todd_Hicken wrote:

I live 2 hours north of Salt Lake City and picked up a secure sim card today.  You have to specifically ask for it as they don't advertise it.  Mind you it was in an effort to try to see if the tap and pay restriction on google wallet would disappear.

That wouldn't work because ISIS uses the secure element that is in the SIM card while Google Wallet uses the secure element that is in the phone itself.  If you put an ISIS SIM card into a phone with a secure element, the ISIS SIM card's secure element will block the secure element that is in the phone.  T-Mobile Nexus 4 users have confirmed this behavior.

[JoeKiv]

If you go to the Verizon Web site, you will find a link below your 'Device' for ordering a Secure Sim.  The Sim & Shipping are free.  They send it FedEx and you will have it in 2 to 3 days.  However, if you are ordering it to use NFC 'tap & pay' with Google Wallet don't bother.  It won't work.

[razorccatu]

Because of this I am planning on switching to Sprint when my contract is up. I understand their original decision from a business point of view but now this has gotten out of hand and is making many costumers (including me) very unhappy. I have tried to stick it out for a long time now and have been a Verizon costumer since 2004 but this will make me switch. I have another year with my current contract so if it's not changed by then I'll be switching to sprint.

[NexusMan21]

I am happy for you that you'll be able to use Google Wallet on Sprint, I just hope you don't have to use store Wi-Fi to get an internet connection.