Lumia 929 (now "Icon") moved to January

I can no longer believe that this is a simple case of incompetence. Whatever the reason for their inability to gut an excellent hardware design, and release the gimped version in a reasonable timeframe, it has to be according to plan.

The sad thing is we watch this same scenario play out over and over again. A company get successful and then gets arrogant. They cut off communication to their customers, with the exception of an occasional forum flunky posting an attorney approved non-answer answer, and train their customer service to 'handle' issues as opposed to solving them.

Eventually their actions catch up to them and when a new company comes along, with a viable alternative, they find out how valuable customer loyalty could have been in preventing a mass exodus. Let's hope they find this out soon... the hard way.

No offense but the 929 was never officially given a release date and then constantly moved. The release date has always been a rumor and that is it.

Either VZW is gutting or adding specs to the phone; only they know.

What bothers me is that if 1/16/14 is the new rumored release date that is pretty close to Nokia announcing new devices in February at the World Mobile Congress (2/24 -2/27).

Oh, I am not saying that Verizon has missed an announced date. I do not care if they have announced a new phone based on these specs or it turns out to be just a rumor after all. In the end, their inability/unwillingness to provide up to date hardware, in a timely fashion, for the Windows phone simply makes them incompetent or conniving.

The arrogance I was talking about is their refusal to tell us anything so we can make a choice. My phone is dying and I need to get a new one ASAP. I tried out AT&T and unfortunately their network is slightly worse than Verizon at my home, which has dropped from 3 bars to 1 bar max over the last few years, which makes switching right now impossible and believe me I want to switch. But I do not see the current crop of Windows phones as worth the money, I dislike the iPhone and find Android to be too unstable.

So here I sit, waiting for something more than a rumor while Verizon sits arrogantly behind their network and refuses to communicate something as simple as 'Yes, we are going to release this new phone sometime in the 1st quarter of 2014' or 'No, we are not releasing a new Windows phone because M$ sux'.

I simply want to know WHAT they are going to do.

http://www.nokiapoweruser.com/2013/12/18/verizon-has-delayed-lumia929-launch-further-mwc-2014-may-see-lumias-without-nokia/

I know it's dumb to post here because only support staff and nobody who makes decisions ever reads this forum, but it's cathartic so I do it anways.

Latest rumor is Verizon is waiting for Microsoft to take over the Lumia line before moving forward with the 929.

PROVE THE RUMORS WRONG VERIZON! RELEASE THIS TOP-OF-THE-LINE DEVICE WHILE IT'S STILL TOP-OF-THE-LINE INSTEAD OF BOGGING IT DOWN IN CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS!

Well it is 2014 which makes the 929 hardware officially last years news.

With the new processors due to be announced the next couple of months Verizon will have succeeded in making the 929 less attractive to new phone buyers so I guess it is safe for them to release it now without affecting their precious Android sales.

I really hope they lose their rear ends on this one.

reyes136

Yeah just like Verizon to delay until the phone is outdated then claim that it does not sell. I mean once the Galaxy 5 comes out this phone will look so outdated.

http://testman.verizonwireless.com/b2c/device/smartphone/nokia-lumia-icon?selectedContractTerm=2

We may be getting close :smileyhappy:

Nice link! Let's hope the Jan 16th rumor is true!

They had cases in hand at CES as well: http://wmpoweruser.com/incipio-nokia-lumia-icon-case-shows-up-at-ces/

To be fair the Lumia 1520 is the same phone:

While I agree that it is sad to see Verizon constantly drop the ball when it comes to windows phone, I would like to point out the Microsoft Kin disaster. While windows phone is way better then the kin they would be fools not to be a little cautious. However, windows phone is the third horse in the race. Come on Verizon this is getting a bit old

So I've got my Incipio Feather case for the Lumia Icon all ready and waiting for Verizon to actually RELEASE this damn thing, and noticed my 928 is significantly shorter but not much narrower than the 929 will be (about the same thickness). A much more subtle difference than I was expecting (like holding the ginormous 1520 in my hand).

Also I highly recommend the Incipio Feather. In addition to protection, it has the textured plastic feel and is easily the thinnest case available for my 928 (and probably the Icon too).

Same boat as you. Been waiting for this phone since October. I'm rocking an iphone 4 right now and nearly every day I almost throw it at the wall. From everything I've heard Verizon was waiting for the Nokia Microsoft deal to go through. I'm stuck on a family plan that we just signed our parents up on as well so I may end up with a shiny new Android phone soon if they are truly waiting for the merger to complete and Microsoft to take over order fulfillment to vendors. I agree with you that no matter how you look at it it's a failure on Verizon, Microsoft and Nokia's parts to bring this phone to market. The missed out on the Christmas buying season for Verizon. What they did do successfully was with AT&T and T-Mobile. They sold the crap out of the Lumia 520 at the $59 price point cash and carry (T-Mobile Lumia 521 was slightly more expensive at $69). If Verizon would have had a value Windows phone at that price point I would have bought it JUST to try it out while waiting for the premium phone. Alas, despite standing here with money in my hand Verizon, Nokia and Microsoft failed to sell me something. Unbelievable.

In theory I agree with you. The dearth of windows phone 8 on Verizon is ridiculous. But why would Verizon wait for the Nokisoft deal? I'm not affiliated with Verizon but I still haven't seen any rumors that agree with that statement. Do you have a link? I'd like to check it out. If not that's fine, I'll just continue to ask qui bono?

Sent from my Windows Phone

Well since the phone has not appeared, and Verizon is still ignoring us, I gave up, after my current phone locked up 4 times today, and went with a cheap android phone to carry me over while I let each of my family's phone contracts run out. This time next year I hope to be a former customer.

Good luck everyone who is still hanging in there.

http://wmpoweruser.com/verizon-nokia-lumia-icon929-now-on-sale-in-china/

HAHAH! If I want a Verizon phone I have to import it myself from China! This is ridiculous on top of ridiculous!

Say whaaaaa!? Lol beyond ridiculous! I guess Exclusive doesn't mean what I thought it meant. Inconceivable!

but any way. I haven't given up hope yet but a warning to Verizon, if my contract runs out before this phone comes out im outta here!

I cant believe I let myself believe that Verizon would bring us what we

wanted. Im starting to think about taking my family plan to ATT. Truth is

they (ATT) move more quickly to adopt and they seem to discuss plans more

openly with their customers than Verizon. Im very unhappy with they way

Verizon seems to be intentionally supressing Windows Phone and boxing us

into an IOS and Android for our choices. "You want a Windows phone? Sure.

We have three. There are more models of the iphone to choose from than the

Windows phones we offer."

Have you also noticed that almost no OEM's offer built-in mobile broadband for Verizon? The only one I have seen lately that had them as an option was a Lenovo laptop.

Every device I have lusted after the last few years have mainly had AT&T as the only option. It seems that Verizon's arrogance extends to dealing with the OEM's as well as the customer.

It is unfortunate the way the business model has evolved for mobile devices in the US. We need to find a way, other than government regulation, to break their stranglehold on the devices so we can purchase the devices that meet our needs and move freely between providers without having to replace them all.

Verizon always does this, with non-Samsung-Android phones. Whoever above said they might just go get a shiny new Android - don't do that! That's probably what they want. I cannot even drive by the store less than 60mph without an employee running out and jumping onto my hood trying to push a Samsung Android phone on me.

.... But seriously - me, "I'm interested in a Windows Phone". VZW Employee, "Hey come look at this Galaxy S4!". My wife, "I'm interested in the new BlackBerry". VZW Employee, "Look at the features on this Galaxy S4 (as she starts playing on it)!".

Don't get me wrong - I love Samsung products. My current TV and phone are both Samsung products. Sometimes, you just want to try something new though.

But anyway - anyone remember the Droid Bionic? I waited on that phone for months! Then when it finally showed up, the Droid Razr came right behind it! Well, I got the Droid Razr and hated it! The screen faded in and out all the time when you were using it. So, I ended up giving it to a relative for their upgrade and got a Gnex. I lost money on that deal.

Moral of the story: Verizon holds off. If phone finally shows up its already out of date. You get it (or similar phone that bests it) because you've been anxious to get it! You realize you wasted your upgrade on it. You spend more money on something else.

Money > Customers - every day, every time.

http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-icon-live-verizon-includes-isis-mobile-wallet

Looks like it might be even closer, now it was up on the production website for a short while, and mentioned ISIS wallet support.

kreamkorn

I went into my local store last Saturday to ask about it. This was after it was on the test site. The rep didn't know anything about it, but looked it up in the computer and found it. He said the employees get it on the 23rd, which is tomorrow. He said sometimes the employees get it earlier and sometimes the same day. He said to just look for it to come out on the 23rd. Hopefully the off contract price is not $777 as I'm buying it that way.

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_929_icon_to_launch_february_5_or_march_5-news-7638.php

Wish you were right, but I'd bet 100 to 1 that it doesn't come out tomorrow.

kreamkorn

Not sure if I'm right or wrong about employees getting it today but it looks like we won't.

If its March 5th I'm sure there will be another Nokia phone coming out soon that will blow the Icon away. This is supposed to be a 2013 phone.

http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-lumia-icon-looks-nice-in-white/

Ugh, just another (high quality) image leak to keep me going today. I can't wait till Feb 5th / March 5th for this beauty, PLEASE LET THIS THING LOOSE!

I'm thinking closer to March 5th because of the Nokia Press Event at the

Mobile World Congress on February 24th. Why they would wait this long is

beyond me. The 929/Icon would have outsold the 1520 during Christmas.

My consulting firm is starting to go with Windows Phones because we are

Microsoft consultants. It's as one of our sales people put it "eating your

own dog food." I bought my wife a Surface RT when it was on special from

the Microsoft Store for $200 because she started her Master's in Nursing

Program. She's ended up bringing it to meetings at the hospital and it has

turned a lot of heads when people said, "hey, you've got Office. . .on your

TABLET." She has to go through the whole spiel on how she does almost 100%

of her studying, paper writing, email, all on the Surface RT AND it cost

$300 less than the iPad.

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:35 AM, AtomicInternet <forums@verizonwireless.com

Why would anyone want to purchase the Icon after February is beyond me. Nokia will announce new devices on February 24 which will most likely go to AT&T first for a 6 month exclusive before VZW gets a crack at the 6 month old hardware.

kreamkorn

Yep, this phone should have been released last year near the 1520, but Verizon takes their sweet time.

If they do that again this will be the first and last Nokia I purchase. I

have a feeling that the distribution model is going to change once

Microsoft is at the helm. I don't think Microsoft will tolerate Verizon's

crap like Nokia did. They have the money and the clout to get stuff done

that Nokia did not. If I know Microsoft they are going to focus on getting

new products to Market faster. That seems to be an area Samsung is winning

in right now.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nokia-Icon-dummy-model-mistakenly-goes-public-at-a-Frys-phone-could-launch-as-soon-as-February-5th_id51813

True - this phone will be released as obsolete.

muneo

Posted this on another thread:

February 5th is just around the corner

I am thinking more like February 24. That's when the Mobile World Congress

convenes and Nokia has a press event scheduled. Not to burst anyone's

bubble, but if I were going to make an announcement, I'd probably schedule

a press event for it. It would be great if it came out on the 5th. I just

don't think that's in the cards.

I'm not so sure. Would it make sense for Nokia to unveil a phone that's only going to be on one carrier, one that still appears to be hostile to windows phone I might add, will only appear one country (china doesn't really count cause they were getting rid of stock) at a multinational press conference in a way that says, hey sorry world but this phone that so many of you guys think is the perfect size, it's a Verizon exclusive so you can't get it. That's almost guaranteed to tick of all of Nokia's fans instead of just us poor fools still putting up with Verizon. They may release it the 24th but they sure aren't dumb enough to alienate everyone by drawing attention to an exclusive phone. Just my two cents.

Sent from my Windows Phone

good point. but it's so late in the game that all our conjecture seems

pointless. Samsung is getting ready to bring a 20 MP phone to market and

historically they can do it faster than other mobile mfg's. Hopefully

Microsoft will change that.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/nokia-lumia-929-makes-fry’s-appearance-accidentally-listed-928

Update: icon shows up at Frys.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/536099/20140128/nokia-lumia-929-icon-windows-phone-handset.htm#.UumBFbCYaUk

The Verizon 929 Goat Rodeo continues (SMH)...

We now move out to California where a brain dead Verizon Reseller set out for display their "genuine-imitation" plastic marketing Lumia 929. Click the link below for more.

A $130B company with a marketing and device pre launch plan that a 3rd Grader could have come up with. You are really looking like fools VZW.

I heard it was coming out in the 5th quarter of 2016.

squishygirl83

Maybe Verizon is waiting to release a Pink version on Valentine's Day, like they do with their Droids. And the reason it hasn't been announced yet is because they just can't seem to get the right shade of pink to match their eyes....

lol

Jazzman1

What you say Willis?

Sorry I harken back to TV of the early 90's. I'm sad to say that the plastic one shown at Fry's in CA. probably was the introduction of the ICON. Now they are laughing to themselves. See, no one wants to buy Windows Phones anyway. LMAO

XAPWV

It comes out Febuary 12th

Source? Or that is just off the top of your head

David_Patow

Verizon, Verizon! It's now into February, and the Nokia Icon/929 is still not out!

Why do you play with my heart so?

http://www.wpcentral.com/cases-nokia-lumia-icon-verizon

While you are waiting, you may want to consider ordering your case for your 929 / ICON prior to release. At least the case manufacturers have their act together! After all, you wouldn't want to wait this long to drop your new Icon and have it break the first day you own it! Perhaps by the time your case arrives, the phone will be released?

I love the reader comments in some of the links below - especially from those who respond to the WPCentral article.

http://pocketnow.com/2014/02/04/lumia-icon-accessories

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nokia-Lumia-Icon-Accessories-Emerge-Online-423929.shtml

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/02/nokia-lumia-icon-case-leaked

Astropin

I actually did just that.....ordered an Incipio case and a pack of screen savers. :smileyhappy:

Nokia teased a phone recently. Call me crazy but this has to be the Lumia Icon, unless they are releasing a clone it looks just like the renders of the icon. Please no more teasing and just release the stupid phone already!

Verizon dealer my wife talked to today said theres a merchandising briefing

call scheduled next week for store managers/dealers to talk about it.

http://wmpoweruser.com/latest-rumours-point-to-the-lumia-icon-arriving-on-the-20th-february/

I'm starting to believe that these are the same people who predict our weather here in Tampa. Just keep guessing...

http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-icon-verizon-february-20th

Now WPCentral attempts to confirm the unconfirmed. Monkey see...

justnina

The Verizon store in my area doesn't even have any windows phones up on display. I've asked about this upcoming phone and they had no clue on what I was talking about. And went and said that they're not able to really sell windows phones that they usually just get bought back by the manufacturer. How ever if you look around the store there isn't even a single windows phone on display so no one would even be able to try it out let alone know that they even sell them so of course they're not able to sell them.

Nokia Lumia 929/Icon will be delayed until they can get the flying car control working. Just waiting on the flying car to get finished.

David_Patow

We had flying cars, back in the 60's. What happened to them all? There were lots of pictures of 'em in Popular Mechanics.

Sounds about right. Well we'll find out soon enough!

As of this morning, Microsoft Retail Stores taking $50 pre order for Lumia Icon. Tried to pre order online and over the phone with Microsoft Store, however, they are not handling the pre orders yet (possibly later today or tomorrow). For now, you must go to the retail store to pre order. Phone to be released on the 20th.

Thanks for the update maddog! hoping I can get to the store tomorrow.

Stuck at a client in the sticks today.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/news/article/2014/02/more-is-coming.html

VZW just posted this to Twitter!

Probably about andriod devices

Can't wait till the weekend to get my MS store to pre-order the Icon.

Ads, have already started from Nokia, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMT442XIfjo&feature=player_embedded

BTW - Pre Order $$$ is only $25 and not $50. No orders over the phone. Must be done live at retail store. You have to pick your color when you pre order. Some wild colors to choose from too!

Black - or - White.

justnina

Is this just for Microsoft stores or also Verizon stores?

justnina wrote:
Is this just for Microsoft stores or also Verizon stores?

I have only been working with the Microsoft Store in Tampa, FL. I am not sure what Verizon is doing and nothing confirmed from the Microsoft Store Online.

justnina wrote:
Is this just for Microsoft stores or also Verizon stores?

You can try; but most likely they will strong arm you into buying an andriod device instead. I think you'll have to wait till at least the official announcement from VZW before you try a store.

*Knock Knock* Anyone home Verizon? Wake up Verizon. Verizon, are you there?

Verizon delays Windows Lumia Icon until Feb 20th 2014, when it was rumored in October 2013? Well, 6 months late is better that never... right? Oh, that's right - new Windows phones will be announced later this month. Well, just release this phone as obsolete. 6 months in the mobile world is a long time Verizon.

"Hey pal, it was just a rumor in October. Verizon made no annoucement". I'm not your pal, buddy, but it was supposed to be a 1520 fighter which was released in October.

Someone call all of Verizon's corporate employees back from vacation. There are new phones and updates to be released. Verizon is getting as stale and flavorless as a month old unsalted cracker.

"Lets build a giant network and then, stay here and walk around in circles for a while".

It's gotten to the point that waiting for Christmas is nothing compared to waiting on Verizon. Christmas came and went over a month ago.