Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)
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Just contacted Verizon and was told the following
I show that we are going to get the phones but there is not a release date yet.
[Full chat transcript removed as per Verizon Wireless Terms of Service ]
So it looks promising that something will be happening soon. When? We'll just have to wait and see.
Thanks Verizon for not making me leave for AT&T.
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Agreed. I have been with Verizon Wireless since the old name. I have an iPhone 4S which badly needs to be replaced. I have been holding off waiting for the new Windows10 phones. If Verizon does not carry it I will have to switch to AT&T (3 phones in my plan). I hate to do that since Verizon has much better coverage in my area.
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Microsoft isn't talking to other carriers. They may be interested but MS isn't talking so there seems to be some sort of exclusivity regardless if MS says or not. If they are not going to talk how are they going to get other carriers on board?
http://pocketnow.com/2015/10/09/microsoft-lumia-950-att-exclusivity
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When I first read the article you posted, I couldn't believe it...but darnit, it's true.
I came across this article that actually offers up a somewhat believable reason that Microsoft would screw us all.@
Cliff Notes: The article basically states that MS is getting rid of the Lumia line in favor of Surface phones. Furthermore, that "the speculation is that Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and Surface VP Panos Panay want to reset Microsoft's mobile division, ridding the unit of anything that reminds them of the previous regime, including Lumia phones. Behind the scenes, Panay is rumored to be working on a Surface phone that would include PixelSense pressure sensitive touch inputs."
Source: PhoneAreana
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I totally agree with the comments asking for Verizon to carry the 950.
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Yea, Verizon reps, oh, it must be true !
Truth is, they don't have access to this information till there was a press statement about it. When you know, they will know. Over the 15 years, it's been dozens of times where I was told information from a VERY NICE rep, that was 100% wrong, Or talk to 3 different reps (store, online and calling in) and get 3 different stories on some things.
Most of Verizon's reps information comes from other reps or what WE all can read about on WC or other WP related sites, only referring to rumored or upcoming phones.
Till Verizon or Microsoft makes an official statement (or a Microsoft rep leaks it), I would take this info with a 100% grain of salt... Just not true...maybe at this point.
I hope they do carry the 950XL but, I have a feeling I am going to have to move to AT&T or TMOUS to get it.. I remember when the Luima 900 came out to AT&T only, and we were in the same boat...
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It's the 950XL or carrier change so.......hope they get it.
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Carrier change. Already confirmed MS isn't talking to any carrier. AT&T or unlocked is your choices.
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Probably just playing for time, like the 1520 that never arrived. AT&T demonstrates outright that they prefer our business. Pretty large credit too, for switching and getting the phones we want (win win!)
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I am a 25+ year AT&T customer, in the early years it wasn't called AT&T, anyway I never changed carriers they just kept changing the name. I am seriously thinking of changing to Verizon because AT&T is shrinking their rural coverage. Places I have used my phone in Eastern Oregon for most all of those years I found last year wouldn't work, zilch...nothing. I thought there was something wrong with my phone, even did a hard reset still nothing. When I got home I checked the coverage maps and sure enough no more AT&T coverage in that area. Everyone else I was with was using their Verizon phones just fine. I currently have a Lumia 920 (since 11/2012) and love the phone and would like the 950 or 950XL but not from AT&T. Need to do something soon as I believe the battery in mine is failing and the LED for the camera flash quit some months ago.
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I hope that it's true to Verizon will get the 950 and 950XL. Undoubtedly the best phone on the market now (soon). Enough that I am considering switching to AT&T and moving my whole company to them so we can better integrate with our Win 10 system that we are upgrading to. I've been with Verizon for 20 years and moved one multi-billion company to them completely. I hope it's not time to rethink that decision.
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As Thurrott and Foley note, Microsoft is trying their best to these phones into user's hands, but the company is facing many obstacles. Having the largest carrier in the US shun Microsoft is a big blow, but should not be surprising. In the past, Verizon has requested exclusive phones like the Lumia 928, Lumia Icon and Lumia 735 only to promote them half-heartedly after months of delays for approval.
For what it is worth, Verizon has done similar things in the past. The Nexus 7 and Nexus 5 have also had the same issue with Verizon's network.
If true, Verizon's actions appear to be more of spite than technological. Windows Central is reaching out to Verizon for comment on the matter, and we'll update this article if we received a response on the matter.
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Well no 1520 for VZ is shame on VZ
No 950/XL on VZ shame on me if I'm not smart enough to seek out a new carrier.
You'd have thought after the debacle (later turned huger profit win) that was VZ's dragging their heels on the iPhone they would have the good sense to stick with it. But attitudes in stores and the polite but vague press releases are the real story. "We never told MS that" simply means they never made a written statement to said effect. But from high fees to lengthy delays, VZ feels that Win Phone is too much bother to be on board. Remember that updates were last Fall (2014) delayed because they claimed the update harmed "VZ Navigator" functionality. See what business they are trying to protect? And the customers they are trying to serve? Just like the iPhone it appears that ATT will have to show VZ how you foster a product from weak beginnings to flagship status (like the iPhone). It takes years and it takes effort. So as those CDMA networks fade and LTE is on everyone's tower, what will VZ offer? Will they lead or will they let others take the reins and show them how to produce a future flagship product?
With the news on the 950/XL, it appears they have no ability to lead.
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That article is so wrong. If people actually read open access and read the FCC documentation they will find it is in fact technological as well as Verizon has nothing to do with it. People will also find the who ECID argument is out the window from 4 years ago. Verizon switched over to the authentication system that AT&T and T-Mobile uses...
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Let us look and see.
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Here's an article from 4 years ago that explained the change in the authentication system. LTE devices had trouble with the switch. Since there was no windows phones around that time that had LTE it went unnoticed to a lot of windows users and the problem was fixed prior to LTE windows phone.
Now block C open access rules specifically states. If the device can access the networks it must be able to connect and be used. That means if MS actually put in the hardware, did the software, and went through all the licensing and testing by the consortium (Qualcomm, FCC, WiFi, and bluetooth) and put it out in the market like that Verizon can't stop it from connecting. If they do they will be fined, and can potentially lose their billions of dollars investment and lose the Block C licensing. This is why they switched to the new GSM based authentication scheme. It's the reason why the unlocked Nexus 6 and higher, the iphone 5S and higher, and the Moto X 2015 when you put a Verizon sim in it they connect and MyVerizon will tell you non-Verizon device but still work. It's the same with AT&T and T-Mobile if the IMEI is not in their database it'll show a place holder like that as well.
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I will get the lumia 950 and if Verizon does not offer it I will have to move on to a different carrier! I have been with version for over 16 years and won't hesitate to move but as big of a company they are they should give us these options!
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Do it now. There's already enough information out saying it isn't going to happen. Especially the FCC filings for the phone.
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A little hard to do it now... but in a few days/weeks. We are still waiting on the phones to become available.
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If Verizon can't lead the industry with new technology, IE: cutting edge phones, what is their value? all of the networks have similar coverage. Verizon's once awesome customer service looks more like AT&T everyday... Over 10-years a customer & they once again, block new phones (Nokia 920/928, Apple I-6, etc. etc.), this might be the end of it for me.....
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I disagree about coverage by the various carriers being equal. Nobody can touch Verizon here in northern NJ. Sure, in big cities you can get a signal even with Sprint. But then it comes down to network speed. Overall, nobody compares to Verizon around here.
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You are a real fan of Windows Phone.
