Lumia 950 and 950 XL (or some variant)

[genegh]

Just contacted Verizon and was told the following

I show that we are going to get the phones but there is not a release date yet.

[Full chat transcript removed as per Verizon Wireless Terms of Service ]

So it looks promising that something will be happening soon.  When?  We'll just have to wait and see.

Thanks Verizon for not making me leave for AT&T.

[primortal]

Take this with a small grain of salt.  I've lost count of how many times via chat or actually speaking with support that they tell misleading information.  We just have to wait for an official response from VZW or Microsoft.

[Tidbits]

The rep said the truth, but people are putting specifics when the rep speaks general terms.

Yes Verizon is getting phones with no release dates. What phones are there? You may be talking specifically windows phone but that response sounds in general.

[Tidbits]

Like Primo says. I don't understand why people always ask the lowest of the totem pole for information. They'll always be last to know and they never know about any new devices UNTIL they get training on it. If they get training on it there would be a press release about the product.

[MobileGeek42]

Yes, take this with a small grain of salt. I have a transcript with a Verizon Wireless customer support person that made promises to me that never came to be. I called back after a week and spoke to someone for nearly an hour trying to resolve it. I was left with a supposed email address to continue work with someone on the issue. I'm sure the emails were sent straight to the trashcan.

I have no problem switching to AT&T. Verizon isn't all that anymore. AT&T is good enough and less expensive for me anyway.

[genegh]

Absolutely correct primortal and Tidbits!

I was just wanting to point out something promising (never wanted to imply this as fact).  One thing I didn't post of the original conversation was the part that specifically called out Lumia 950 and 950 XL.

Thanks,

Gene

[sonkel]

I too am a long time Verizon customer and very much would like to see Verizon truly support WPs. If they don't come out with something this fall (either the Lumia 950 or something akin to it), I will be switching carriers.

[tiggerddw]

I too am a long time Verizon that will move to ATT if a 900 or 1000 series Windows phone is not carried on Verizon.  I have carried a Windows phone since the first windows 7 phone Verizon offered. I do not want to give 5 lines to ATT

[JBass3]

Even if Verizon chooses not to sell these awsome looking phones directly in-store does this ruleout using an unlocked version on their network.  Lumia 928

[genegh]

Some interesting news from ZDnet.com.  Here's what I walked away with:

• AT&T has no exclusive deal regarding the Lumia 950 and 950 XL
• AT&T is only reporting plans to carry the 950 right now
• Microsoft may have purposely not provided carrier details during the event because they don't know who will or won't carry the phones

So my guess is that Verizon will play the "wait-and-see" game, watching AT&T's adoption rate before deciding to jump in.  The only way I see Verizon carrying one or both phones, is if Microsoft ponies up some money (or other incentive) in exchange for getting Verizon on board.

All of us Windows fans just don't provide enough of an economic incentive to get Verizon help us out.

Source:  If Microsoft builds it, will carriers come? Not for the Lumia 950 and 950 XL | ZDNet

[sinatra_33]

I too am a long tim VZW member, over a decade. However, if they do not provide me with a newer WP soon, I am switching carriers. This is ridiculous. I don't want to be 'pushed' to an iphone. I can do everything with my (nokia) lumia phone..then it broke and I had to get a htc which sucks. The camera is not at all good or comparable to what I had. I hope they announce it soon.. I'm due for an upgrade!!!

[47seijar]

The Lumia 735 is available right now at a very compelling price.

[Alexvrb]

The 735 is a good phone but it's not really comparable to the new flagships. If you're truly in the market for a 950/950XL/similar I don't think you'll be cross shopping with the 735.

[Brink04]

I have been waiting almost a year for a flagship windows phone.  If they cannot provide on Verizon, I will be taking my money and accounts elsewhere.

[jnewton3D]

I certainly hope that MS and Verizon strike a deal to provide the Lumia 950/950XL on Verizon or that it will work unlocked on the Verizon network.  I compared the networks and bands specified for the Lumia 735 on Verizon and the 950/950XL both have everything the 735 is reported to have (ala the MS store and Phone Arena).  But the lack of CDMA per se seems to indicate that they will not work on Verizon's 3G network even if it will on the 4G LTE.

As for updates, I think you can get updates via the Windows Insider program to get around the carrier's slow distribution.

[npsofmpls]

I am getting really tired of Verizon email me about telling me I have a phone ready for swapping out. I have a Lumia Icon, do you have something as good or better? Nope! Verizon needs to off the Lumia 950 and XL, I would update my phone once they get these. I even tweeted at Verizon about the Lumia 950 XL. I refuse to get an iPhone and I don't care for the Android OS. Come on Verizon, step up to the plate.

[SickFreak]

Yea, I get those e-mails for the android and even iPhones too.  But when any Windows Phone, like the Icon, came out for VZW, did I ever get an e-mail announcement that it was available?  NOPE!

[topher36]

I really don't want to switch carriers, but if I can't buy a Lumia 950 or 950XL and use it on Verizon, then I will be forced to go to AT&T.  I don't necessary need Verizon to sell them directly (although it would be nice), but I just want them to work on the network.  Make it happen Verizon.

[FXi]

I can't tell you how much misgiving I have.  I want to be hopeful as I've been with VZ for a few decades plus.  But maybe that's my mistake.  We had a literal FCC picture of the 1520 coming to VZ and that failed.  So what we get told it "might" be coming (zero official btw so it's all avoidable if the don't feel like it) and users sit and wait when there are devices they want to use right now?  This feels like some bait to keep me around, and if it looks like a duck...

If this were truly motiving VZ you'd have a deal in days.  MS and VZ are big kids they know how to sort this out with a few remote meetings, and a few internal memo's to manufacturing and distribution.  VZ has plenty of automated internal testing systems to insure this system works well and if they are not currently trying out Win 10 mobile preview well then they aren't ready and that still tells me not to stay.  They should know better, and they do.

Now if this is a supply side issue, MS needs to get themselves in gear too.  This isn't a single sided issue.  But if ATT is ready now, then these things have been in motion a while and it kind of says who is the more capable vendor.  These devices are going worldwide, so it's probably not a supply issue.  I really do enjoy VZ's expertise and service (all aspects of it).  But if the best you can do is deliver that service in a Yugo, while ATT is ready to service my Porsche right now, then that service has very limited value.  I can come back when your mechanics and your garage are capable of servicing the vehicle I want to use day to day.  Nothing says I can't switch back, but you'd have to make a pretty strong argument as to why I would pay you in the meantime to use a Yugo...

[kevinnoland]

Add another person to the list of frustrated consumers. Verizon and Microsoft have a terrible working relationship that has cost us the opportunity to get the best of the Windows phones.

Verizon, please listen to those of us who want to own the 950 Lumias.  If you don't want to sell them, allow us to buy them unlocked from Microsoft and use them on our network.

I'm already paying more for Verizon than I would with the other carriers. Not allowing the 950 to work might just be the final push I need to leave for someone who will give me what I want.

[Yamatatsu]

If Verizon doesn't offer the new Lumia 950 then when I return from my Jordan trip in December, I am moving to AT&T. I will pay more for international data and voice on AT&T but at least I will have the cellphone that "I" want.