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Wireless N Router

I'd like to upgrade our FIOS plan, but I'm reluctant if Verizon can't provide a Wireless N solution (why purchase an upgrade if none of my devices can use it?) It's disappointing to me that there STILL isn't a Wireless N router/FIOS Modem that Verizon officially supports.

I've read that there are problems using VPN when using the older Wireless G ActionTec routers as a bridge in conjunction with Wireless N routers, so this is not a viable solution for me.

Does anyone know when Verizon will finally enter the modern age and offer a Wireless N router compatabile with their FIOS product?

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marc3565

I am not aware of any plans for Fios to change to a router that has N.

The G routers are more then capable of handling the max speed you can get on Fios. You can plug in any other router to work as a wireless access point if you want higher speeds amongst your devices but it will have no impact on your internet connection.

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/verizonfios/3.0_Networking

There are a lot of people using non-Verizon routers and having no issues with VPN.

spacedebris

The plain and simple answer is that Verizon will not be providing an N class router anytime in the foreseeable future.

As said above, G routers will handle the speeds of the Fios with no issues. And Verizon never has and never will support internal networking. And since N class routers will only make a difference for internal networking, it will not be something that they are even going to consider. The Fastest Fios speed anywhere for residential is the 50Mbps (and only in one small area of NY), everywhere else the fastest fios is 35Mbps. The G router is capable of 100Mbps. Therefore the internet is the choke point, not the router.

MoopMeep

I thought verizon was going to use this wireless N router?

http://www.actiontec.com/support/product_details.php?pid=213&typ=all

jumpin68ny

Spacedebris, if you connect on the wire then yes you will connect at 100 meg. If you connect via wireless than the fastest connection speed will be 54meg. Additionally due to the overhead associated with wireless you will never see 54 meg but rather 20-25 meg with ideal conditions (no interference).

I will agree with you that someone who puts in an 802.11N router will NOT see any difference in their internet speed. Buying an 802.11N router or AP is a complete waste of money right now, no matter who your internet provider is.

rweck

Not really, if you would like faster local transfer speeds it would definitely be the way to go.

Hubrisnxs

wireless n routers are now on the street. but they just BARELY got released. like 2 weeks ago.

http://tinyurl.com/27da5fx

SharonFlanders

I asked Verizon Tech Support why my new IPAD only works in certain rooms in my house. THey told me that Verizon has a G router and this is a common complaint. They will be coming out with an N router soon. I asked when, but the rep was not sure. He said the N router will have at least 10X the range and will the solve this common problem we Verizon customers are experiencing. A friend our our who lives about 15 miles away is a COX customer. He said when Cox upgraded to the N router, COX replaced all the routers with the N router free of charge. I am very much looking forward to the N router and I hope there will be no charge from Verizon. Our friend (The Cox customer) raves about the features they have with their plans and the great service.

MrTantrum

Geez, it's not that hard people. If you require wireless N for networking (e.g. laptops, iPads, etc.) then just purchase and install a 802.11N WAP. You can find them online from reputable distributors for as low as $40. Simply disable the WiFi on the Verizon Router, plug the new WAP into one of the LAN ports on the router, configure appropriately, and viola . . . you now have 802.11N wireless connectivity.

donutz28

Giant ISP can't keep up with the rest of the internet!!!!

The wireless G can't keep up with Fios and its range is horrible.

Also waiting for gigabit ethernet.

Can't believe that Fios is crippling business and power users with wireless G and 10/100 ethernet.

Someone give Verizon purchasing and engineering a wake up call!!!

viafax999

@donutz28 wrote:
Giant ISP can't keep up with the rest of the internet!!!!
The wireless G can't keep up with Fios and its range is horrible.
Also waiting for gigabit ethernet.
Can't believe that Fios is crippling business and power users with wireless G and 10/100 ethernet.
Someone give Verizon purchasing and engineering a wake up call!!!

My fios isn't crippled. The Westell 9100em router that Verizon gave me can handle my fios package 25/25 with no problem when I'm connected using the 100mb ethernet connections on it, admittedly if I went to 50/50 that might be an issue but as Verizon are now using Actiontec rev F routers that have gigabit ports and also are wireless N then I would expect to get a new router at that point. I don't bother using the wireless on the Westell as I agree it's range sucks, in addition wireless security is questionable and the house is wired with gigabit capable wire anyway. For internal networking between my own machines I added my own gigabit and wireless n router- wouldn't really expect Verizon to go the expense of speeding up my internal network.

If you contact verizon tech support you can get the ethernet port on your ONT activated and then connect your own gigabit router to that but it will not affect your internet access speeds until Verizon improves their speed offerings.

MrTantrum

1. Purchase $40 802.11N WAP from any online reseller

2. Disable Wireless on Verizon Router

3. Connect new WAP to LAN port on Router

4. Configure new WAP as instructed (give it a different SSIP or clear cache on wireless devices)

5. Join new SSIP

BBHammer1

Just read this about N routers from Verizon for FiOS, maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/802.11N-FiOS-Router-Verizon-Broadband,news-6512.html

spacedebris

Thats a very old post. April 2010. The N routers are out now, but they (Verizon) still do not officially support the "N" portion. Since they do not support internal networking, as far as Verizon is concerned G or N its all the same. You cannot request one. Its luck of the draw if you get one. If you do get one, your on your own for the N portion. They will support 10 feet distance or line of sight, which ever is less. Beyond that you are on your own for wireless. The only reason Verizon's router has N now is because they cant get the G in bulk anymore.

Belwinkle

Verizon has Routers that support Wireless N, my friend got new service and his router supports it.

I asked them for one and they said sent me the same as I haver, my friend GOT NEW service and they gave him release version G I think it is.

Mine is F I think. Verizon SHOULD ALLOW US to get the N routers if we want, we PAY ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jay

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taltamir

Wireless G has a theoretical maximum speed of 54 mbps (mega bits per second). That is 6.75 MegaBytes per second. However, realistic speeds are closer to 1 megabyte a second, which is what I get on my verizon router using G mode. This is typical of WiFi G for all routers, and is equivelant to 8mbps (megabit per second).

This is much less then the max minimum speed that verizon offers. Even cheaper plans can easily get 25mbps, and some get 50mbps or more.

You should also note that it cripples file transfer speeds on the local area network between computers you own. With wireless G you cannot stream an HD movie, with wireless N you can.

Finally, routers tend to be under powered. They often use vastly overclocked and undercooled chips that die rather quickly. And before dying provide a litany of errors and defects.

Under utilizing your router is one of the best ways to enjoy it longer. So owning a router that far exceeds your capability is a good thing. I had to downgrade from http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=530 which I bought about 2 years ago to the verizon wireless G router. I use an 8 port gigabyte switch with it. It would be great if verizon actually provided us with a modern router

smith6612

Most Wireless G routers I've set up, including a 5 year old Linksys I have in my home max out around 22Mbps of throughput up and down if they are broadcasting on a clear channel, and are using WPA2-AES encryption on them. This includes the Verizon FiOS routers when they are set up properly. Only time I see a Wireless access point max at 8Mbps is when it is operating on a very noisy channel, the signal is very poor or the router is starting to die. Of course, nothing beats Ethernet in speed for networking.

Taz1956

Hi all,

I want to ask if anyone uses the N router as described in this blog, with another one attached (Linksys) as a way point because the Verizon is needed for the TV info.

I would like the better routers from Actiontec that has a usb port so I can host another printer from the router. I get full 54mb on my g router. N should be faster.

looking for input from others............

thanks................

Taz1956

abhi_col

With the 150 x 30 Mbps plan , customer gets a actiontec rev G router which is a wireless N router. It has 2 antennas.

jessica45qt

I talked to a verizon tech support person and had are 25/25 upgraded to 35/35 for free as we have the highest package that verizon has but not the highest speed availible on the internet side and i was told to get wireless N you would need to have 100MBPS package or faster to get the new wireless N router which is what customers would need if you have tv thru them unless you disable the wireless on the fios router and hook your own router to one of the empty ports and that way you could get wireless n that way and that way also you can get a dual band one which uses 2.5 freq and 5.8 freq so you worry less about interference from near by signals near you.

Also the new verizon N routers have gigabyte which the others are using 10/100 ports which can handle a big load.

This is verizons new Wireless N router >>> http://www.actiontec.com/products/product.php?pid=213

There is a rumor the new wireless n can handle 8 ports and thats more then the old ones which are 4 ports

And i checked the pic and it shows only 4 ports and this one has a usb plug for a usb hard drive or printer so you can share it.

Theres a modem you can get outsode that supports Mocha Fios type of connection that switch it back to ethernet wires and then you hook your wirless router almost like a cable modem setup.

I don't remember the site off the top of my head but just google around and im sure you can find it.

smith6612

The Gigabit/N router Verizon offers doesn't have 8 ports. Just 4 with an additional WAN port for Ethernet connectivity from the ONT. You can add additional ports to it just by buying a Gigabit switch and connecting it to a free port. Same goes with the older 100Mbps units, either hang a 100Mbps switch or a Gigabit switch off of it, based on what you want and it's good to go. Many switches have auto-sensing uplink these days, so they're mostly plug and play.

SnapVA

You can buy the latest Router (GigE and Wireless N) at: https://teleproducts.verizon.com/fios/index.cfm/eh/DisplayProducts

For those interested, it is the Actiontec MI424WR Rev I, and I just got one with a new install I (don't have the 150/35 service that used to be required).

Good luck!

kaycat

If you live in a small relatively new house a B or G router is OK...

If you live on the EAST COAST where often houses are older and made of stone or brick and have physical fire walls, then you NEED an N router....

You will also have problems with cordless phones... Ones you purchase with 4 extensions... It's LOGICAL that if you need 4 extensions you may have some GROUND to cover in your house.

I live in a 3 story LARGE house and all of this technology is a PROBLEM when it comes to range within your home... FRUSTRATING!!!

kaycat

AMEN!!!

smith6612

Unfortunately Wireless N in itself won't fix a signal issue and will if set up wrong, make a bad signal worse. You'll find improvements from better radios, placement and antenna designs. My old Wireless G router for example had great antennas and a great radio, and was capable of pushing 60Mbps with some priorietary methods (108Mbps double wide link). It was capable of covering a quarter of my neighborhood due to sensitivity and it's location.

If you're seeing signal issues, consider placement. If you have three stories to cover and your router is sitting in the basement, there's half of the issue. Signals do not move up, diagonally and down as well as from side to side with Omnidirectional antennas. If you have to have a router in the basement, consider setting up an access point on the top-most floor or consider a high gain directional antenna for your access point.

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