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Hi. I was just wondering if anyone here is using or knows of someone using the Moxi DVR. The good the bad or even the ugly. I like the idea of owning the DVR and better yet no fees other than the M-card. I just wasn't sure about the stability of the Moxi, then again I like everyone else deals with the Motos now how bad could it be. Any thoughts are appreciated.

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KenAF

@Sabre70 wrote:
Hi. I was just wondering if anyone here is using or knows of someone using the Moxi DVR. The good the bad or even the ugly. I like the idea of owning the DVR and better yet no fees other than the M-card. I just wasn't sure about the stability of the Moxi, then again I like everyone else deals with the Motos now how bad could it be. Any thoughts are appreciated.

AVS has an excellent DVR feature comparison table with Moxi right here.

Looking at the table, the Moxi appears to be the obvious choice right now for multi-room setups. If you want the ability to record all programs matching a search (such as all Yankees games) or the ability to download recorded files to your computer, then TiVo looks like a better choice.

At this point, I would suggest you wait three weeks to see what is announced at the Consumer Electronics Show (Jan 7-10). That's the show where consumer electronics vendors announce new and upcoming products. If something new and improved is coming in the first half of 2010, we'll hear about it then.

spacedebris

I've only used the Moxie a couple of times. My grandmother has Time Warner and the DVR they provided was the Moxie. I dont find it to be as user friendly as my Tivo or my Verizon DVR for that matter. Now, I've not used it reguarly and I'm sure that once I got used to it it would likely be fine. But sitting down with my Tivo the very first time, it was very intuitive. I had no problem finding what I was looking for and after a few minutes I was happilly surfing away. My Verizon DVR follows the same basic design and although different from the Tivo, its still realitively easy to figure out and use. The Moxie on the other hand was like pulling teeth. I'd go over to my grandmothers becase she lost her pic (wrong input on the tv but this is another issue). I'd get her pic back and then ask her what she thought of her DVR and if she was enjoying being able to record her shows and watch them anytime she likes. She informed me that it was too complicated and she had never used it. I thought that it would be similar to the Tivo so I was going to teach her how to use it. So I started into the menu and immediatly got lost. Now after about half an hour I pretty much figured out where things were,still didnt know how to program yet but knew were to go to do it, but at that point I stopped and quit. Because if I had this much trouble getting into the systems and working it, there was no way that my 80 year old grandmother would EVER figure it out. She's sweet and smart, but not technically minded. Took forever to teach her to program the coffee maker. I then went down, bought her a Tivo, and got a cable card from Time Warner, sent back the Moxie, and now she can go through that menu even better than I can. She went from Stoneage Granny to TechnoGeek Granny almost overnight. She says that the Tivo is simple to understand, and I agree. But then this was just our experiance. Maybe others have different ideas or experiances.

beci5

Thanks for the input. KenAF you have given me plenty of info on the TIVO, much appreciated. Like I said before, I am really intigued by no dvr fees. I realize the intial cost is more but in aprox 2yrs you have your money back and you're to the good. The Tivo is more main stream and has been arround longer which is a plus.

prisaz

@KenAF wrote:
@Sabre70 wrote:
Hi. I was just wondering if anyone here is using or knows of someone using the Moxi DVR. The good the bad or even the ugly. I like the idea of owning the DVR and better yet no fees other than the M-card. I just wasn't sure about the stability of the Moxi, then again I like everyone else deals with the Motos now how bad could it be. Any thoughts are appreciated.
AVS has an excellent DVR feature comparison table with Moxi right here.
Looking at the table, the Moxi appears to be the obvious choice right now for multi-room setups. If you want the ability to record all programs matching a search (such as all Yankees games) or the ability to download recorded files to your computer, then TiVo looks like a better choice.

At this point, I would suggest you wait three weeks to see what is announced at the Consumer Electronics Show (Jan 7-10). That's the show where consumer electronics vendors announce new and upcoming products. If something new and improved is coming in the first half of 2010, we'll hear about it then.

I wonder what Verizon will announce, if anything. Good idea to wait. We may be surprised. Smiley Wink

strat

Like you, I wanted to avoid monthly programming guide fees and decided to get a Moxi. I have used the Moxi DVR for 6 months with FIOS and have really enjoyed the device having absolutely no regrets. The HD picture quality is amazing. I found the interface easy to use, although it does have a couple minor annoyances. But overall, I find it easy to navigate and get to the content I want. There are features I like on the Moxi that Tivo doesn't have. Filtering features are really nice, getting views of live channels & recordings in specified categories, e.g. movies, music, news, sports. The ability to watch recorded or live shows (seeing it clearly in HD) while configuring the device, recording other shows, or browsing live guides. I do miss the Tivo remote, it was much easier to fast forward and start right at the beginning programming after commericals. The Moxi remote doesn't back up enough after you hit play, I frequently have to rewind a little after fast forwarding. Sound and picture blips that I saw frequently with my SD Motorola box and TIVO are rare on the HD Moxi. I beleive this is due to better video processing hardware.

Installation was straight forward. Although ordering the installation was a challenge. At the time, not many of the Verizon support staff were knowledgable of multi-channel cable cards (M-cards). I was originally told that I would only get a single channel with the provided cable card. Knowing better, I called several times, escalated the issue until I found someone knowledgeable. Even after that Verizon sent me an analog converter in lieu of the cable card. I called and they promply sent me the appropriate M-card and re-scheduled the installation. The Verizon tech that installed the card had a few challenges, but got the job done. I was not getting all the channels after about 2 hours. I called Verizon, they identified the problem and fixed it right away Ever since it has worked wonderfully.

In terms of reliability, it has crashed twice in 6 months. Everything worked fine after a power cycle. This is consistent with the experiences I have had with my SD Motorola box and my Tivo.

For me, when I went to HD the standard Verizon DVR does not have enough space, you can only record about 20 shows. I also had a problem paying more each month for the same device I had already rented for years and likely paid for through those monthly fees. I also didn't want to pay Tivo montly programming fees ... and was intrigued by Moxi's interface. Again, I have no regrets and plan to buy another Moxi when I get a second HDTV.

beci5

Thanks, strat for the input. I think its the inherent nature of these dvrs to need to be reset every once in a while. I was with and actually still use a dishnetwork pvr and that too needs to be recycled every few months. Did you need any attenuators on your fios input line because it was too strong? As I said I really like no fees and I like the look of the unit as well. Thanks again.

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