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How are we going to fight mandatory Data Plans

I just talked with a rep from Verizon and it sounds as if it is a problem created by both Verizon and Apple. I clearly am in the fascinity of Wifi at both work and home so for me the data plan even though it is unlimited is not a necessary evil for me. I am not the type who would use social media unless I was at a hot spot.

So who do I need to be taliking to end this foolishness and have a saner bill if I want to have an iPhone. I will say I may not ever get one if this foolishness of a required data plan is so necessary. I do love Verzons coverage and overall customer service but I feel itr is a diservice to requre something I have no use for. I am smart enough to avoid the need to play with apps on the go and honestly wait until I get to work or home to play with my toys which is really what the data plan for an educator serves to be.

Am I the only one who wants to have an iPhone without a data plan?

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davemanfl64

Sounds like you should just stick with a normal non feature phone. And buy an Ipod touch. Problem solved.

TBhouston

For that device you need the unlimited data.. The phone needs to run updates from time to time, pushs email etc etc.

There is just no way around data packages with smart phones, its the industry standard.

If you aren't using the features on your phone maybe a feature phone might be better for you..

unknown

If you don't need a data plan, you don't need a smartphone.

AZSALUKI

keep your phone and get an ipod touch

Squallfyr

Ditto to all of the above

gerio

AT&T did this over 2 years ago with their iPhone plans, then with all smartphone plans. You have your best suggestions above. Geri o

Tidbits

TonioMiguel wrote:
I just talked with a rep from Verizon and it sounds as if it is a problem created by both Verizon and Apple. I clearly am in the fascinity of Wifi at both work and home so for me the data plan even though it is unlimited is not a necessary evil for me. I am not the type who would use social media unless I was at a hot spot.

So who do I need to be taliking to end this foolishness and have a saner bill if I want to have an iPhone. I will say I may not ever get one if this foolishness of a required data plan is so necessary. I do love Verzons coverage and overall customer service but I feel itr is a diservice to requre something I have no use for. I am smart enough to avoid the need to play with apps on the go and honestly wait until I get to work or home to play with my toys which is really what the data plan for an educator serves to be.

Am I the only one who wants to have an iPhone without a data plan?

Don't get a phone that requires a data plan, and convince other people to do the same. Eventually they'll have to drop the data plans or drop the data network.

If you can find wifi everytime you need it I can see your point. I have wifi at home, and I also have wifi at work... I also have a computer at both locations... It would make having a "smart" phone a moot point and a basic phone would be enough, but the places I often travel not in those locations it's hard to find wifi unless I have to pay for it out of pocket. It's cheaper for me to spend the $30 a month than it is to pay for wifi in various locations.

elaines

I can see the OP's want of no data plan. Have an iphone but do not want the data plan. Maybe wifi is enough for him.Verizon does sell the ipad only wifi. It would just be one more choice for people. What is wrong with choice?

I personally know someone that wanted the new iphone4 but there was nothing wrong with her original iphone. She wanted to get a new iphone and give her old iphone to her hubby. But he did not want to pay the extra money for another data plan.

TonioMiguel

Yeah, I began thinking about it too but I still think people like myself who live with wifi do not need a data plan to even update our phones. Don't show your lack of understanding about data and wifi both are similar ways to accomplish the same thing being connected to the web.

In my case, I am planning on buying an iPad 2 wifi only which is sold by Apple not Verizon. Verizon has no need to sell a device without their services. Seriously!

Although as a consumer who works in a school no teacher or administrator needs daya plans if the majority of their use is in a wifi hotspot. Which that is my situation. Data plans are for people consistantly on the go. In all sincerity, my phone I have now should have wifi by now but Verzon and their constituents want the money they can get from data plans. If I had wifi my phone might have a few games or tools by now but it is not possible. Only Smartphones have wifi which is a scam just like a rose is a rose by any other name.

I am not your idiot consumer but a concerned citizen that sees a loop hole that that been made that is truly unnecessary the same idea of faulty buttons on a phone which specifically have told Verizon to shut off the internet options on my texting phone for web access. All that needs to be done is simple programming which both Verizon and any other company does not want to do because they like to nickel and dime consumers rather than offering what we really want.

My solution is not a stupid Ipod touch but an iPad 2 much more powerful and a better deal. It just makes sense.

I still am going to see how we can break this ludicrous scam that all companies except the Mom and Pops that are actually making worth having a small data plan.

budone

Remember you are playing in Verizon's sandbox, they own the network, they own the infrastucture, they had the device developed to work on their network, they can dictate how people access data. I would suspect nearly 95+% of smartphone users use them as they were intended. There is no need to build a special niche for a small minority. Either agree to the requirements or go elsewhere or get an iPad along with a feature phone if you feel you must be with VZW.

It has been this way since November 14th 2008. If the government was concerned, they would have already addressed it.

AZSALUKI

TonioMiguel wrote:
Yeah, I began thinking about it too but I still think people like myself who live with wifi do not need a data plan to even update our phones. Don't show your lack of understanding about data and wifi both are similar ways to accomplish the same thing being connected to the web.

In my case, I am planning on buying an iPad 2 wifi only which is sold by Apple not Verizon. Verizon has no need to sell a device without their services. Seriously!

Although as a consumer who works in a school no teacher or administrator needs daya plans if the majority of their use is in a wifi hotspot. Which that is my situation. Data plans are for people consistantly on the go. In all sincerity, my phone I have now should have wifi by now but Verzon and their constituents want the money they can get from data plans. If I had wifi my phone might have a few games or tools by now but it is not possible. Only Smartphones have wifi which is a scam just like a rose is a rose by any other name.

I am not your idiot consumer but a concerned citizen that sees a loop hole that that been made that is truly unnecessary the same idea of faulty buttons on a phone which specifically have told Verizon to shut off the internet options on my texting phone for web access. All that needs to be done is simple programming which both Verizon and any other company does not want to do because they like to nickel and dime consumers rather than offering what we really want.

My solution is not a stupid Ipod touch but an iPad 2 much more powerful and a better deal. It just makes sense.

I still am going to see how we can break this ludicrous scam that all companies except the Mom and Pops that are actually making worth having a small data plan.

if an ipod touch would not do what you require then why would an iphone? the iphone is just an itouch that can make a phone call isn't it?

"I am not your idiot consumer."

I'm sure you are not, but the problem is that the casual phone buyer is. verizon tried the $10 and $15 limited plans and guess what happened. EVERYONE that "thought" they didn't need unlimited data because they could just use wifi, or wouldn't really use much data got their first bills....with the overage charges. verizon did that $15 plan for i believe about 2 months. i suspect it was a nightmare and they quickly realized that their average user simply isn't capable of keeping track of their data....or has no idea how much data streamimng a few videos actually uses. the promotion was supposed to be a way for those, like yourself, to get the smartphone that they wanted for half of the regular $30 plan. it was a failure. it would be nice if people like yourself could be segregated from the rest of the users, but it's not possible. how many kds are running around with these things now? now give one of those teenagers an iphone and tell them "but you can only use it on wifi." how large of a bill do you think you'd get at the end of the month, due to overages from data use? now i know it's the kid's fault, but where do you think these parents are going to complain...and try to get those charges waived?

unknown

Verizon is a for-profit business. They are not in the business of selling phones. They are in the business of selling access to their voice and data networks. Their business model is to cater to customers who want/need to use their networks.

reallyniceguy

Yup, alot of people think verizon is here just because they want to give free stuff around. They are here to make money, the same reason att, tmobile and the other carriers are. There may be people who do not want the mandatory plan but there are a ton of us who do use it. The best part is that if you dont want to, you dont have to have a data plan. Just get a regular phone. Why have a smart phone and not have internet? it defeats the purpose. at least IMO

gerio

{please keep your posts courteous}

I was gonna offer a counterpoint to your points, which have a little merit.

{please keep your posts courteous}

Yeah, screw the big phone companies, lets bring back the.good old days in the late 80s of $.50 a minute cellphone service.

Man, I'm getting a headache.

Geri O

lou61166

gerio wrote:
{please keep your posts courteous}.

I was gonna offer a counterpoint to your points, which have a little merit.

{please keep your posts courteous}
Yeah, screw the big phone companies, lets bring back the.good old days in the late 80s of $.50 a minute cellphone service.

Man, I'm getting a headache.

Geri O

So you are not tied to verizon in anyway,you seem to defend them when someone has an opinion you feel is hurting their integrity,hey that's fine,but do not snub your nose at the truth,and the hard facts{please keep your posts courteous}

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gerio

Trust me, my feelings are fine. You are simply proclaiming you truth to be the Gospel, the Last Word. The topic here is about mandatory data plans, their merit and how, nay, why they came about.
I can read the hard business news just like you can, but I'm not going to put a spin on it, as you've done with your 60s anti-

gerio

Crap...
(continued) anti-business attitude on the matter.

{please keep your posts courteous}

Geri O

Cndykthy

I am in the 5 % that does not want a data plan and feel I shouldn't have to be made to pay for one . I now have the LG Voyager and love it ... Which I had before you had to buy a data plan . Now if my Voyager quits working , I am forced to down grade my phone . I am so sad that Verizon has done this to me . I will no longer praise Verizon as I have done in the past . Will not renew my contract with them !!!! I have been a long time loyal customer ... Well no more !!!!!!

dbbrass

Well there were some rumors running around out there that Apple was going to make a 'mini' iphone of which would be limited to phone use, music play, and some additional functionality, but no or limited data access. You know sort of an Apple version of the rabble of 'multimedia' phones already out there of which don't require a data plan. Just a rumor though. :smileywink:

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