For now I am going to wait until Verizon subsidizes the price for the Nexus One. My Eris is fine for now! What do you think?
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Nah, I already have the Droid. And the Nexus One are neck-in-neck in specs. So I'm happy with the Droid, espeically since we're getting 2.1
I'd consider turning in my Droid and using something else for a few months until the NO comes to VZW, except that I have not read any noticable significant differences.
pittsleyb wrote: For now I am going to wait until Verizon subsidizes the price for the Nexus One. My Eris is fine for now! What do you think? http://www.phoneinferno.com
I'd consider getting the phone on T-mobile. The only thing is that I like having a full external keyboard and not just an internal keyboard.Just easier for me to type on.
Well, you asked.
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Well I love my droid, but was a little dissappointed in the camera on it. So if the camera on the Nexus One is much better i will get it in a heartbeat.
Yes, as soon as my 1-year contract is up on my Eris in November. The 1-year contract was certainly a smart move for me, because I'm not interested in paying outrageous ETF fees, and the phone was so cheap, it was slightly cheaper to get it with a 1-year contract on Verizon than it is to get a Hero with a 2-year contract on Sprint. Go figure. With the Nexus One, I'd probably get a 2-year contract.
No, there definitely isn't anything on the N1 to grab my attention at this point. I'm quite happy with the Moto Droid.
Something better/faster/bigger will be out by Christmas.
On that note, the idea of a "Fully Google Controlled" phone is *extremely* appealing to me for one reason and one reason only...
This year will be the year to find out which companies provide **QUICK** support and upgrades for their phones, and which companies do not.
Samsung, at Sprint, with all the problems of the Moment, and their inability/unwillingness to resolve those problems and get an update out beyond Android 1.5 puts them off of my list for the next few years, at least.
Any device with HTC Sense UI is off my list at this point also, again, there is no reason HTC should still have the Eris & the Hero at Android 1.5
Motorola, with their custom interface is also pretty much out of the running at this point also.
As to if I will purchase another Motorola Android phone to replace my Droid? It depends on when they get Android 2.1 released for the Droid.
I don't expect 2.1 to be pushed out to the phone 4 or 5 days after the release of the code by Google, but you know that the 2.1 code is already in the hands of Motorola, HTC, and the other Open Handset Alliance partners. If Motorola comes out with a 2.1 update in the next 3 weeks, I'll be quite pleased with them. Any longer than that, and my opinion starts to drop rapidly. Other than a few drivers, there is nothing that Motorola had to customize in any great way to get Android 2.0 to function on the Droid, so it should not take them long to get it up and running on the Droid. In reality, a week from now should be sufficient.
I'll guarantee you that if the source code for 2.1 were available to the hacking community, along with the source code for the hardware drivers, they would have a functioning, stable ROM out by this time tomorrow... And 48 hours from how it would be optimized and running 20% faster than the first release.
Granted, they would have a large base of users willing to jump on the new ROM, provide feedback, and risk some instability to their phones while the details are sorted out, and Motorola/Verizon are not going to want to push 3 different updates out over a 6 day period to address issues that crop up in the "wider range" of users using their phones, so a little longer period of testing is in order.
At the same time, there is really no reason that those same users who are willing to be somewhat unstable for a day or two, risk missing a few calls, a few text messages, out of focus pictures, etc., could not be offered the pre-release ROM images as a PC download to help "beta test" that various ROM images that Motorola develops/releases for the phone either. As an added bonus, since these ROMs would be fully signed, the user's phones would not have to be rooted even. If a user is willing to install a ROM, possibly reset to factory to clear all user data and jump through any other hoops that might be required for the testing process, why not let those users, who fully understand the risk of instability/reduced functionality for a short period of time to help speed up the testing process.
During this next year, and probably the next 3 or 4 releases of Android, we will see how updates CAN and SHOULD be handled, by how Google releases these updates as compared to the other "suppliers" of Android devices... My next phone will be the one marketed by any company who releases timely updates to the O.S. And produces a CDMA version of their phone for Verizon, as I do not see any "progressive" ("T-Mobile-ish") GSM carriers putting up towers in my area any time soon. Who knows, maybe even the relatively slow-moving Verizon will get some pricing plans for non-subsidized phones, which I would hop on in a heart-beat if they had some sort of pro-rated buy-out on existing contracts with subsidized phones already attached to them when I decided to switch phones... It is not that I want to jump ship from Verizon, I'd just rather have the option to change phones when ever I wanted, and re-sell my old phone on the open market. T-Mobile gives you that choice without taking a financial hit, because of the reduced access charges when you don't get a subsidized phone. The way it stands now with most carriers, you'd be a fool to purchase a new phone at full retail (or unfortunate enough to *have to* due to damage/loss) and use their service, or to not upgrade as soon as it's possible to do so, since around $15 to $20 of every bill goes towards that subsidy, whether you are taking advantage of it, or not. (I know, it might make sense to not jump on a new phone "immediately" when they are eligible, if they know something better is just around the corner that they want... Like the "Nexus Two" or "Nexus One-cV", or what ever Google calls their phone for Verizon's CDMA network.)
I look forward to the day that I can separate the phone cost from the monthly bill and choose to keep the phone for as long, or short of a period as I find it useful.
What was the difference in price for the Droid on a 1 year contract vs a 2 year contract?
My new-every-2 comes next month and with the way technology is moving on smartphones I'd like to do a 1 year on a Droid also if it's not too much more money.
I think the price difference is around $175 or so for most phones when I was looking a couple months ago.
Absolutely. Hopefully its available "early spring" and not "late spring"
No, the price of the data plan is too steep for my blood. I cannot swallow an extra $60.00 for the data plan on 2 phones. I wonder if Verizon will require the data plan if you can buy the phone directly from Google? If Verizon does not require the data plan, then I might get a pair of them. Given the cost of a subsidized phone and the required data plan, I would still come out ahead by $840 after 2 years if I bought the phone directlly from Google assuming it cost around $500.00 per phone if I did not have to subscribe to the data plan. Data = $60 a month x 24 = $1440 + $400 for two subsidized phones (assuming $200 a peice) = $1840 spent over 2 years with data plan. If I buy 2 phones directly from Google at $500.00 a piece then its $1000.00 and no data plan = $840 in cost savings over 2 years. Even if the phones cost a little more, I am still saving money.
nodataplan wrote: No, the price of the data plan is too steep for my blood. I cannot swallow an extra $60.00 for the data plan on 2 phones. I wonder if Verizon will require the data plan if you can buy the phone directly from Google? If Verizon does not require the data plan, then I might get a pair of them. Given the cost of a subsidized phone and the required data plan, I would still come out ahead by $840 after 2 years if I bought the phone directlly from Google assuming it cost around $500.00 per phone if I did not have to subscribe to the data plan. Data = $60 a month x 24 = $1440 + $400 for two subsidized phones (assuming $200 a peice) = $1840 spent over 2 years with data plan. If I buy 2 phones directly from Google at $500.00 a piece then its $1000.00 and no data plan = $840 in cost savings over 2 years. Even if the phones cost a little more, I am still saving money.
We've been through this before on these forums. Long story short; Its not only silly to have a smart phone without a smart plan, but particularly with the Android system it would just be near impossible.
No, it would not be impossible. There is that little Wi-Fi feature that you can run the phone off of. A data source is required to get all the features of the phone but not a data plan. Wi-Fi can be your data source.
I simily answered a question as to why I would not be buying the phone and those reasons are legitimate and valid. Please respect my position and my viewpoint.
nodataplan wrote: No, it would not be impossible. There is that little Wi-Fi feature that you can run the phone off of. A data source is required to get all the features of the phone but not a data plan. Wi-Fi can be your data source. I simily answered a question as to why I would not be buying the phone and those reasons are legitimate and valid. Please respect my position and my viewpoint.
No one said that your reasons aren't legitimate or respected. I don't know why you feel inclined to say so.
Regardless, You seem to be under the notion that Android stops pulling information to and from you without Wi-Fi. That's not the case. It's been heavily discussed, and if you do want the Nexus/Any Smartphone, get the data plan, if not then I'm sorry.
Yes, I will definitely get the Nexus 1. I have no need for a physical keyboard, and I like having a faster processor.
I currently have an Eris (still in my 30 day evaluation period) and I have several issues with it (ActiveSync Exchange doesn't work fully with Zimbra - my work e-mail, no weekly view in calendar mode, missing time stamps for some activities, etc) -- PLUS the battery life. And sometimes the Eris lags. I love its form factor and prefer its design much over the Droid.
So, if I can have a faster Eris, with a more up-to-date version of the OS, sure I'll give it a try. Two questions remain of course:
1. Battery Life - given how slim it is one has to wonder.
2. *When* will it come to Verizon?
