Facts1. Iphone 5 coming in june. Do you want to be the guy/gal with the old and slow phone in a few months? No.
I don't care I will buy the Iphone5 money is not an issue. Not a problem.2. Hotspot who cares! I can pay $20 or less for this feature on any decent phone!
I don't really care about the hot spot either but I will have finally an Iphone on Verizons network after waiting for so long.3. Have an 'old' plan? Sorry, you have to sign up for a new and more expensive plan to get this phone!
Not really If I buy it the only thing that will change is the NE2 and I really didn't care about that anyways. I already pay 30 a month for data so whats changing?At&t looking better and better.
Never had AT&T but from millions of blogs I have read about the company 7 out 10 hate it cause of the service. Once agian this is just blogs so.
C'mon Geri O, you want to see what others are saying... It is like rubber necking at an accident seen.
@geri, the iphone 5 will have a single cdma/gsm chip from qualcomm so yes the iphone 5 is coming to verizon in june. The hotspot feature is not free you pompous nimrod, it's $20 per month in addition to your data plan charge. (No its not its a feature you can add on for $20 either you want it or don't want it check your facts) No at&t phone does hotspot for free but nor does iphone 4 so this is not a feature worth touting. the tmobile htc myTouch 4g does offer free hotspot. Sorry but it is not worth getting the Verizon iphone 4 if you like state of the art devices.Ps. Sorry but my iPad doesn't handle proper upper casing well. Lol
It's not nice to call people names either.
All speculation at this point!
What the device will contain I mean.
I won't I will just buy the new one if it come out. So then when the new one comes out I will just a have a new device. Simple as that
bustedmagnet wrote:@lisaak45 - most of us cannot afford to upgrade in the niddle of contracts.
That is true but I guarantee a lot of people will get it anyway. Especially if its during the summer and a lot of college kids are working. I have read a lot of people that posted the same thing you did and have gotten the same reply from other people saying they really don't care. Anyways why are you posting this on the iphone section. It seems everyone on here want to get there questions answered about the Verizon wireless iphone. Not try to degrade it
bustedmagnet wrote:As far as i kow this is iphone info. Keeping people informed as ive been doing tons of research.
Ha what research you don't think the other people on here have not. I am not disagreeing with you research but the exact same thing you posted I have seeing in a hundred different articles so I am betting that the people on here have already read that on another website. All the post I have seen on here I have to say people already made up there minds and have a read the same first thing you posted. So give people better research than what they already know.
Most of us have been researching the iphone 4 from verizon and the iphone 5. If were on a forum and stick around, we all have the time and effort to stay informed. First of all, this is ALL speculation. Not one fact whatsoever. Furthermore, it is also an assumption that appe will release another iphone this summer. Things change. Situations change. Networks change. I amabout 65% sure it wont happen this summer. & IF it does, it will just be a small upgraded iphone 4. I want dual core/led screen/bigger screen/4G LTE or at least 2 of those..preferably the 4G LTE & dual core. Apple likes to learn from others mistakes and "change everything. again". Go ahead and wait. If it does come out (I hope it does) and it is 4G ect... than I will be selling my iphone 4 for about 300+ and pay 300 or less for the new one. I am not concerned at all o this one. There is a decent chance it ownt come out and be worthing upgrading so if that does happen, who will feel lame for waiting? I have been suffering with my POS droid 1 since launch day. I am so done with that phone I cant even take it. Ill be online or in line come feb 3/10. Do what you woudl like... but dont come on here telling us all your "facts" that simply aren't facts.
kyomagi wrote:Someone sounds like a android fanboi trollIn 2 months, the iPhone 4 will still sell for 400+.The iPhone 5 will have let, which is not going to be expanded until next yearVerizon JUST stated the iPhone will have the STANDARD $30 unlimited plan, which AT&T does not have.You can get free tethering if you do something to the iPhone. Google itIf AT&T sounds better, take a walk
Agreed 100%. Trust me, if you arent going over 150mb or whatever WAS available... you dont need an iphone anyway. I go through over 2 gigis easily on my droid and i dont even like the apps that much. I will most likely go way over that on my iphone since the apps are BA!
it has come out every june......FOR AT&T. when has verizon ever got a new iphone in june? also....and i could be wrong....but are you all arguing over at&t and the iphone hotspot? i didn't think the at&t ip4 could even be used as a hotpspot???? am i wrong? the title is fine: "why buying the iphone is a mistake?" the reasons are just all wrong. No external memory, no flash support, no google commands, more expensinve than ANY other smart phone, and i could go on and on. hotspot though, has nothing to do with it. it is priced and works the same as every other verizon smartphone. by all means, go to another carrier as we are going to need all of the bendwidth that we can get with the iphone insurgence!!!!!! lol
ya u can say wait till i phone 5 in june but then im sure in nov they will have iphone 6 so maybe i should of waited till iphone 6 or 7 or 8 or 9!!! they are always going to keep coming out with a newer phone like the droid then the droid 2 and the droid 2 global and envy then envy 2 then 3 and touch so no matter what it doesnt matter if you wait to get iphone 5 then in a couple months there will be a 6 or some crap thats just what happens they always do that
I have my money that the iPhone 5 for Verizon won't happen until next year Febuary
Trend for the iPhone... AT&T get's it first, then Most of Europe, then the CDMA versions come out. China, and such... This will be at least a 6 month process.
So by all means wait for the 5, and I will enjoy my 4 and wait for the 6. I don't need the latest and greatest to stroke my ego.
iphone 5 will be out in a few mo with a dual core, more ram, also on lte 4g, but there will also be the driod bionic coming out in a few mo with the same specs so now what lol
I have an ATT contract and Apple is in control of their image. My $$ is also on Apple not releasing a phone on Verizon network and within 4 months releasing another generation phone. They would have a bunch of angry Verizon iPhone owners. The first upgrade with Att was met with fierce anger by iPhone owners because when Apple released the next generation phone ATT was not going to allow current iPhone owners an early upgrade option. The public outcry fixed that in a jiffy and people that had bought the first gen phones on launch day were magically eligible for the next gen phones on launch day. I don't suspect Verizon would want the backlash of releasing iPhone 5 on their network 4 months after the launch of a newly designed device. Also, Apple would not want to upset their fan base by doing something like that. I figure (just my speculation) you will see June dates for ATT and February dates for Verizon. This way they can stagger the manufacturing and distribution peaks. Just my 2 cents.
So after doing more research and seeing more and more evidence of the iPhone 5 NOT being LTE, I went ahead and switched to Tmobile HTC MyTouch 4g which offers me free 4g tethering. In other words, it's the only data plan in existence where I can use the data as I please. I cannot wait for iPad 2 which I am sure will make for a happy marriage with my new android device.
bustedmagnet wrote: So after doing more research and seeing more and more evidence of the iPhone 5 NOT being LTE, I went ahead and switched to Tmobile HTC MyTouch 4g which offers me free 4g tethering. In other words, it's the only data plan in existence where I can use the data as I please. I cannot wait for iPad 2 which I am sure will make for a happy marriage with my new android device.
Nice FUD you are spreading around.
T-Mobile does not offer "free" wifi tethering. They DO NOT allow tethering, but are switching to allow it with a tethering plan within the near future.
Also they have a 5GB "soft" cap where they will throttle you down if you go over.
Have fun and Good Luck. I hope you are not one of those people in the T-Mobile boards complaining about this later on.
I ordered the Iphone 4, and glad I did. I got to keep my plan even though it isn't offered anymore.
1. Just because the iPhone 5 is coming this summer does not mean that the iPhone 4 will suck. It probably wont even be in 4G, same 3G as iPhone 4. Expect a huge OS update rather than a major design change.
2. I dont care thats why Im not paying $20...
3. Its called a data plan, all smart phones have to have one. Plus $30 = unlimited (Verizon) kicks $25 = 4GB (ATT)
Verizon might not get the iPhone 5 until months later though. I have friends who are still using their iPhone 3. Upgrading to the latest thing is not a priority for everyone. I would hardly call the iPhone 4 an old device. I actually see the Verizon version as a new and improved model. I usually use my phones for 2 plus years before I get sick of them or they die.
A good reason to buy now is that unlimited data plan. Who knows how long that is going to be around. I already pay the same price for my Blackberry now so it is not an issue. The iPhone is also better suited for my business.
irDigital0l wrote: 1. Just because the iPhone 5 is coming this summer does not mean that the iPhone 4 will suck. It probably wont even be in 4G, same 3G as iPhone 4. Expect a huge OS update rather than a major design change. 2. I dont care thats why Im not paying $20... 3. Its called a data plan, all smart phones have to have one. Plus $30 = unlimited (Verizon) kicks $25 = 4GB (ATT)
ATT is 2g for $24 not 4
Why buying the iphone 4 is not a mistake:
I want an iphone 4.... we'll cross the iphone 5 bridge once we get there.
dougie011 wrote: irDigital0l wrote: 1. Just because the iPhone 5 is coming this summer does not mean that the iPhone 4 will suck. It probably wont even be in 4G, same 3G as iPhone 4. Expect a huge OS update rather than a major design change. 2. I dont care thats why Im not paying $20... 3. Its called a data plan, all smart phones have to have one. Plus $30 = unlimited (Verizon) kicks $25 = 4GB (ATT)ATT is 2g for $24 not 4
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/02/atandt-to-bump-datapro-tethering-plan-to-4-gb-per-month/
ill take a stab at this:
1. Iphone 5 coming in june. Do you want to be the guy/gal with the old and slow phone in a few months? No.
look at all the problems iphones have when they first come out (they still havent made a new iphone 4 to fix the
antenna problem with att). also look how many areas that have 4g major cities only so as soon as you leave the city no more 4g
2. Hotspot who cares! I can pay $20 or less for this feature on any decent phone!
not going to get
3. Have an 'old' plan? Sorry, you have to sign up for a new and more expensive plan to get this phone
umm according to my new plan its $89.99 a month right now my phone bill is $109 a month with my droid so im going down
That is new, it starts feb. 13th. I stand corrected.
irDigital0l wrote: dougie011 wrote: irDigital0l wrote: 1. Just because the iPhone 5 is coming this summer does not mean that the iPhone 4 will suck. It probably wont even be in 4G, same 3G as iPhone 4. Expect a huge OS update rather than a major design change. 2. I dont care thats why Im not paying $20... 3. Its called a data plan, all smart phones have to have one. Plus $30 = unlimited (Verizon) kicks $25 = 4GB (ATT)ATT is 2g for $24 not 4 http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/02/atandt-to-bump-datapro-tethering-plan-to-4-gb-per-month/
Except...oops! If your company's email is on an exchange server, you have to pay $45, not $30, for data on Verizon. Just one of those "minor" things Verizon doesn't like to talk about. If I was charging 80% more for a service than my nearest competitor, I wouldn't talk about it much either.
grayhawk92677 wrote: kyomagi wrote:Someone sounds like a android fanboi trollIn 2 months, the iPhone 4 will still sell for 400+.The iPhone 5 will have let, which is not going to be expanded until next yearVerizon JUST stated the iPhone will have the STANDARD $30 unlimited plan, which AT&T does not have.You can get free tethering if you do something to the iPhone. Google itIf AT&T sounds better, take a walkExcept...oops! If your company's email is on an exchange server, you have to pay $45, not $30, for data on Verizon. Just one of those "minor" things Verizon doesn't like to talk about. If I was charging 80% more for a service than my nearest competitor, I wouldn't talk about it much either.
Then go to AT&T, and hope they are what you need in your area. Just because they may be cheaper doesn't always makes them better.
Personally I switched from AT&T to Verizon and pay a little more because their service in my area is better than AT&T every part of the day and my most often places traveled. What good is that $30 if you don't get to use what you paid for?
I have a question about the iPhone's data package allowances.
My Droid Eris for instance has unlimited data for the $30 a month...
I saw AT&T charges $15 for 200mb and $25 for 2 gb a month.'
Well, do apps count towards THAT data or does it just take up the initial 16/32gb the iphone 4 has?
Because my ipod touch can have as many apps as I want until the device gets full, without having to pay for "overages"
That's really bull**** if i have to pay for downloading over 2gb worth of apps/music/vids??????
I was about to cancel Verizon and start an AT&T contract..but uh...
The 16/32 gb have nothing to do with data usage. That is the amount of memory your phone has for storage, apps, songs, etc.
alright...then what would constitute as something using up your data usage allowance??
I'm just curious
Yeah no one knows if the iphone 5 is going to be a significant upgrade or not. Also my blackberry storm already isn't working right now I can't take another 6 months of a broken phone
jcp4287 wrote: alright...then what would constitute as something using up your data usage allowance?? I'm just curious
surfing the web, watching youtube, email, and oh so many other things.
For right now it's unlimited data which is obviously a much better plan than anything at AT&T So for me that's enough to go with Verizon. Even if they switch to a plan that's based on usage then it's not going to be anything more expensive than AT&T in my opinion because that would just be dumb on their part. So in the end no matter when they switch you'll have gotten the unlimited for at least a little while.
My advice as far as the data (I'm not an expert by any means especially on the iPhone so I don't know for sure what is included in the iPhone) would be to get the phone and then use it as much as you ever would. Then verizon has an option on the myVerizon site where you can see the amount of minutes, text, and data you have used. It even says at the top at what point you are in of the billing cycle so that would make it easy to check on the last day. I know that I use the internet and email pretty often on my LG Ally and I only use about 0.8 GB atleast last month. I think that will go up significantly with an iPhone but not by too much. That would also allow you to check which minutes and text plan to choose. Right now I'm on unlimited text and I only used 15 outside of my friends and family allowing me to cut back on that.
So you definitely should monitor that feature and then once they switch to usage you'll have a pretty good idea how much is going to be required.
I have read so many of these complaints of people thinking they are smarter than those who created the new phones or smartphones and even some of the older phones. News flash your not, first of all AT&T sucks you have less map coverage than Verizon. Secondly anything below the droid Eris you have to hook up a USB cable to your PC and to the phone where as the hotspot feature allows you to get rid of the cable and you don't have to spend any money on an app to get internet all you do is go to your market and download either
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and follow instructions free app free internet not so hard. I have Verizon Droid the first one and I love it I'm ready to upgrade it of course but it still works great if I go some where and want internet I plug in the USB cable which I might add at the moment is not too much of a hassle but I'm ready for a phone with a hotspot feature. So quit your complaining nothing and no one is perfect but technology is getting better. And before you buy your new phone research it ask your friends if they have a phone like your wanting of course how they like there's ask Verizon people lots of question do all your homework on it before you buy don't just buy it cause everyone else is it might not be the phone you need. Some of us need all the high tech stuff and some of us don't so make sure you now what you want and need not what you gotta have just because its cool and everyone else has it.
Sounds like someone just can't afford the iPhone now so is trying to make everyone feel bad for buying them. It is not a FACT that the iPhone 5 will be coming out in June, a guess yes a fact no! When the new ones do come out if I want it I will buy it, just as many other people will do. Hotspot is $20 IF you want it, if you choose not to get it, oh well, personally I got it just for my kids to use their iPod touches while i'm driving---my money, my choice! As for having to purchase a more expensive plan you need to realize that many of us came from a "smartphone" anyway and this didn't change our costs at all. As for you saying At&t is looking better and better...............well go ahead and head on over there i'm sure they would be happy to have you.
I started this thread because I'm the type who likes to have the latest device. I'm sorry but you are sadly mistaken if you don't think the iPhone 5 is coming in June for Verizon. I didn't mean to cause anger over this thread. Just saying that if you are that type of person, you should've thought about it.
I also said previously that iPhone 5 would be dual cdma/gsm. Guess what? I was wrong, the Verizon iPhone 4 already is(disabled of course)! If that isn't evidence enough then I don't know what else to say other than lookout iPhone 5.
And to think, they are already talking about iPad 3 coming out this fall before iPad 2 is even announced. Oh brother, Apple rumors can get crazy.
bustedmagnet wrote: I started this thread because I'm the type who likes to have the latest device. I'm sorry but you are sadly mistaken if you don't think the iPhone 5 is coming in June for Verizon. I didn't mean to cause anger over this thread. Just saying that if you are that type of person, you should've thought about it. I also said previously that iPhone 5 would be dual cdma/gsm. Guess what? I was wrong, the Verizon iPhone 4 already is(disabled of course)! If that isn't evidence enough then I don't know what else to say other than lookout iPhone 5. And to think, they are already talking about iPad 3 coming out this fall before iPad 2 is even announced. Oh brother, Apple rumors can get crazy.
I agree with you,but some people like to waste money on mobile devices,and i thought spending 850 dollars to build a new PC was crazy since i will have to wait till intel fixes the bug in the Sandy bridge chip to build it.
When it comes to the iPhone 5 (or whatever they are going to call it), I don't think that Verizon is actually going to get it in July like some people are saying. I was talking to someone at the Apple Store, and they don't even think that Verizon will get it, only 4 months after they release this one; Verizon store reps that I deal with/trust don't think so either. Of course no one knows for sure, but it would not make much sense for Verizon to relase one 4 months later than this one. There will be a PR nightmare for Verizon/Apple if they do that. Of course, on the other hand, people know what they are getting into before they buy this one, and you can never stay on top of technology, etc. as it happens all the time (especially with Android devices) that people buy a new phone, and then a few months later something "bigger/badder/better" comes along. But, I don't see it happening with the iPhone, as it just would not be profitable in this case (given the circumstances for this iPhone and the subsidy, etc) for Verizon to do that. Again, just an educated guess.
And, finally, I HIGHLY doubt that the new one in July is going to be a huge upgrade anyway. I think it will be more like the 3G to 3GS upgrade. You won't see a 4G phone, or a dual core processor in the phone until 2012. Apple has historically not "jumped on" network technology when it first is released. Heck, AT&T had their 3G network up and running a while, and had 3G phones out from other carriers, when the first iPhone came out, and it was not a 3G phone. The 3G phone came the next year. Apple likes to make sure the network technology is stable/tested (well - oops on AT&T's part there as it STILL ISN'T!) before they get in the game. They also like to make sure the chipsets are better optimized, the battery performance is where it needs to be, etc. Sure, Verizon has their 4G network up and running, and a 4G phone (the HTC Thunderbolt) coming in a couple weeks probably, but AT&T still doesn't even have a "true" 4G network up . They are calling their HSPA+ a 4G network, but everyone knows that it is not! If it is, why would they even bother to use LTE later this year/early next year? So, with all that said, I don't see any way that the new iPhone in July (assuming there is one for someone) would be a 4G phone.
When the iPhone 5 comes out, we can just sell our iPhone 4s (they will still go for a lot on eBay) and just use the money for the iPhone 5 if you want it that bad.
Remember, it's Verizon who needs Apple, not the other way around. Apple will dictate the iPhone 5 release in June, not Verizon. You are probably correct in your assumption that iPhone 5 will be a huge upgrade but that depends on what you consider a valuable upgrade.
Iphone 5 will have NFC support, more RAM, and a dual core processor. If you've used mobile Safari you know how frustrating it can be when you are constantly reloading your browser because of low memory. To me the performance upgrade alone makes it worth waiting for.
As for 4g support, the iPhone 5 will not be that phone. Remember how long Apple waited to get the 3g phone. It is also known that the iPhone 5 will work on Verizon and AT&T at the same time, because it does not make sense for them to make two different phones. Iphone 4 already proves that fact. The next iPhone will still be 3g.
I still would say "IF" the iPhone 5 comes out when people think. There is no guarantee that Apple will release it to anyone in July - sure they have in the past, but that was when their agreement with AT&T was exclusive. It is not anymore, so no one really knows what is going to happen. Sure, there are rumors out there, etc. but I am also sure that the phone is being developed now (heck, I am sure that the iPhone 6 is even in development) but who knows when they will actually release it?
Secondly, even if it does come out, as I said, I don't think it will come to Verizon right away. And, if it does, Verizon MAY do some type of an early upgrade (as AT&T has done in the past) for those who bought this one, especially since it is only about 4 months after the release of this one. They don't HAVE TO do it, but they MAY WANT TO just to try and "save face" a bit as far as some people are concerned. I, for one though, don't think that they have to/should as everyone should know what the were buying when they bought it (and I am one that bought it).
Here's addressing each typical concern:
1. The plans are more expensive: What I'm paying per month is the same as I paid for my crappy LG Voyager
2. The phone connections not that better. I realized that my friends who drive me nuts with dropped calls and awful connections are almost always on ATT. Here in the SF Bay area, Verizon is rated number one for good reason
3. The data rate on ATT is faster. I did a test with my ATT iPad versus my Verizon iPhone. ATT = 384kbs, Verizon=1.5mbs
4. I can't do data and phone at the same time. I've got an ATT iPad...no problem there.
I've had my iPhone since Monday and for the first time in over a year, I don't leave my phone in my car for emergencies. I actually USE IT!
You can buy the IPhone 5 when it comes out and have capped data, while I will have my IPhone 4 with unlimited data.
"I started this thread because I'm the type who likes to have the latest device."
I can tell since under Device you have Blackberry Storm listed! HAHA I had that piece of Junk 5 phones ago(iPhone4, BB Bold, BB tour, BB Storm 2, BB Storm)
Keep your stories straight and get a life!
tim40 wrote: You can buy the IPhone 5 when it comes out and have capped data, while I will have my IPhone 4 with unlimited data.
Yes, totally agree. This is one of the main reasons why I went ahead and bought one sooner.
AND.....we can get our iPhone 5's too (as there are always ways to get upgrades when you are not supposed to....you just have to be in good with the Verizon people and they will work with you! lol) with unlimited data, as we will be grandfathered in!
But.....I forgot to mention.....as I have been saying I HIGHLY DOUBT there will be an iPhone 5 on Verizon come summer. Apple MAY release one still like they have the past 4 years, but I don't know how sure that is either.
I don't care I will buy the Iphone5 money is not an issue. Not a problem.
Apple releases a releases a phone practically every 7-8months to a year. No matter when you get an iphone theres going to be another phone coming out in a matter of 12 months or LESS by your logic no one should buy a new phone EVER lol2. Hotspot who cares! I can pay $20 or less for this feature on any decent phone!
I don't really care about the hot spot either but I will have finally an Iphone on Verizons network after waiting for so long.
Ya no comment hotspot only has situational usefulness anyways. 3. Have an 'old' plan? Sorry, you have to sign up for a new and more expensive plan to get this phone!
Not really If I buy it the only thing that will change is the NE2 and I really didn't care about that anyways. I already pay 30 a month for data so whats changing?
Umm where are you getting your info? Verizon has the strictest grandfathering policies of any company for "old plans". If you have an unlimited data package for an ancient blackberry and get an iphone you keep it. if you have an old alltel plan with the smartpack(btw alltel is an old company that at&t and verizon both bought half of 3 years ago and at&t required them ALL to change plans and even purchase brand new phones the day of the switch) there are still verizon customer walking around with brand new iphones with those alltell plans right now. If you were told you had to change that was a particular store that didnt know what they were doing not verizon.
At&t looking better and better.
Ditto.
Ironically... This conversation will pop up a year later when the iphone 5S is around the corner...
Your title is worded perfectly -why not to buy the VERIZON iPhone 4. -but you missed a huge reason:
The version for Verizon is not global ready. That was a big surprise to me when i arrived in Germany with my new Iphone 4 -same as others I work with who use them all over the world- except I got mine from Verizon.
Why would Apple make different versions for different phone companies? Why would Verizon want a crippled version?
If it's a different phone, give it a different part number!
"Oh -you bought your LG405 TV from Best Buy? Well the Best Buy version doesn't get ESPN . . ."
Probably because the iPhone 4s was released less than a year later...which IS global. It was made very clear that the iPhone 4 for Verizon was CDMA (the AT&T one was GSM). When you made your purchase, were you told incorrectly that the VZW iPhone 4 was global or did you just assume it would be despite the fact that anyone with an AT&T device had a GSM one while VZW had CDMA devices...and a few Global devices? And technically...they did give it a different part number/id...iPhone 4 CDMA's part number was different from the AT&T GSM part number. Example...the VZW part # for the 32GB is MC678LL/A. The GSM part # is different. But if you meant model #...they are also different. VZW's is A1349 and AT&T's is A1332. Nitpicky, I know...but it's the truth. I guess you mean it should have been named iPhone 4C or something along those lines...but since they obviously already were working on the 4s you can see why that probably wasn't something Apple was going to do.
Verizon iphone 4 is global... It WILL work on any CDMA carrier not just in the US(there are 54 CDMA carriers in the world). So the rep didn't lie in a sense.
Anyway it doesn't matter anyway... If people want the 4 cheap they'll buy it. If they bought the 4 then chances are they'll be upgrade eligible when the 5 comes out. If you waited to the 4S then you can get the 5S when it comes out. There will be something better coming out. Buy something you can afford and does what you need.
Everything you guys are complaining about is listed right on the webpage in plain text. I really think these forums are more of a bitch fest anymore than they are to help each other out. Are any of you customer service? No only that but if you ave such a huge issue with Verizon go to AT&T, Don't let the door hit ya. Enjoy shitty service. You get what you pay for.
At the risk of starting a tangent:
I went to the Verizon store and specifically asked for global phone, because my trip was short notice -no time to order one, so I asked for what they had in stock that was global ready. Originally asked for a flip phone (as in just a phone), but she said none in stock were global. She said she had the iPhone 4 in stock, they just came in. I had been considering getting one since the field guys have used them for awhile and they all use texting -very tedious with old phone. So I went for it. She spoke about her trips to Europe, said to make sure when I travel that I buy global service a month at a time for best rates, etc. I had no reason to doubt it would be a global phone. No reason to doubt she had me set up for global access for a month. Never heard of different verisons of the 4 other than the 4s. The instore comparison between the two did not list global capability. The differences (to me) were forgettable and only seemed to be trivial stuff related to entertainment use. (8 MP camera vs 5 MP camera?)
The store treated me well, the lady did a lot to work a deal for me, she just made a mistake that has been very unfortunate for me. Verizon has agreed to take back the phone -so I don't mean this to be a rant against them or their people. My original post contributes a strong reason to not buy the iphone 4 from Verizon -if you want global calling, buy the iphone 4 from At&T.
Yes, the rest was just a rant at what seems to me to be a crazy practice to disable a fundamental feature of a phone, and a bad marketing practice that Apple doesn't do a better job distuiguishing their product variations within their product models.
What is a CDMA carrier? How do i use one? This would be very helpful.
The only reason the at&t iphone is global is because at&t JUST SO HAPPENS to use the same network as whatever country you were in. If youd went to a country that uses that same network as verizon(not very many since cdma network is expensive by comparison) then your iphone IS global. lol
