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I'm wondering if anyone with fios internet has bought the new Google wifi mesh routers and are using them with the fios G1100 router?
Also is there a way to shut the wireless off on this router and use google's wifi mesh routers instead?
Haven't done it, but there are some general things to consider when using an extra router.
1) You want to use the router as a bridge not as a router. If you don't, you will be unable to use the app as a remote for your stbs.
2) Are you having an issue with wifi coverage? It may be cheaper to just get an extra router as a bridge vs google mesh. I believe they aren't cheap.
@donutman925 wrote: I'm wondering if anyone with fios internet has bought the new Google wifi mesh routers and are using them with the fios G1100 router?Also is there a way to shut the wireless off on this router and use google's wifi mesh routers instead?
Yes simply log in to the Verizon router under wifi and turn it off. Make sure all three are turned off. 2.4, 5 and guest networks.
most routers can be placed into AP (Access Point) mode. This makes the Verizon router receive the DNS and it just mirrors on the AP routers setup. Very easy to do.
there is a FAQ at DSL Reports that shows and explains the different set up.
https://www.dslreports.com/forum/vzfiber
You can search for it at the link above.
additionally if you just want to use your own router you must first do a dns release/renew (then turn it off immediately)before it receives a new dns from Verizon.
you then take the Ethernet cable and plug it into your own supplied router, then turn it on. It should obtain a dns from Verizon and you should be good to go.
Good Luck
Are you talking about the app for phones and tablets? If so then that will be ok since i dont use any of verizons apps and i only have internet through fios. tv is directv. The other reply stated i could just turn all the wifi off on the myfiosgateway which i did find those settings. At that point I think I would just have to run an ethernet cable from the g1100 router to the wifi mesh routers and i should be alright i think.
Yes I am having an issue with wifi coverage at the end of my house where the master bedroom is. Signal not that great. the g1100 is in the living room. I'm also looking to have more wifi coverage out in the yard when im doing yard work and stuff and the external garage. The google wifi mesh router have been getting really good reviews and the price of them is cheaper than alternatives and i can add more mesh routers in the future if i need them. thanks for the reply
Ok i did find those settings on the myfiosgateway. I wonder if i turn all 3 of those settings off and just run an ethernet cable from the g1100 to the google wifi mesh router which is required to do, theoritcally that should work and enable the mesh routers to create their own wifi network.
I havent bought the google wifi mesh routers yet. Just looking to see if anyone out there has bought these thats using fios interent only. All the reviews i have seen on them people are using comcast internet.
Are there instructions for the dns release/renew?
thanks for the help
@donutman925 wrote: Ok i did find those settings on the myfiosgateway. I wonder if i turn all 3 of those settings off and just run an ethernet cable from the g1100 to the google wifi mesh router which is required to do, theoritcally that should work and enable the mesh routers to create their own wifi network.I havent bought the google wifi mesh routers yet. Just looking to see if anyone out there has bought these thats using fios interent only. All the reviews i have seen on them people are using comcast internet.Are there instructions for the dns release/renew?thanks for the help
Yep it's that simple. The Verizon router grabs the dns, the Ethernet cable then is plugged from the available LAN port into the wan (yellow) port on the google router or any other router. Set the google etc. to access point and you will be all set.
it really does not matter what brand of router you use in place of the Verizon one, it can be a stand alone connection (just Ethernet from the ont to your own router) or Ethernet to the Verizon router and your router set as an access point. Instructions for this would be in your router documentation.
however if you have tv and phone the install will require the Verizon router to be in the equation.
"however if you have tv and phone the install will require the Verizon router to be in the equation"
I do have TV and phone from Fios too. Looks like my Quantum has ethernet coming from ONT into WAN and also coax. I work from home and have kids who'd kill me if the WiFi isn't working so I need to get this right. Would someone please list out the actions to follow, including any details or screen shots for each step? THANK YOU in advance.
I was able to successfully hookup google wifi with the fios gateway router.
Everything works - TV/Phone/Internet/On demand/Guide/DVR
The only thing that I am not able to do is while I am connected to the google wifi network, I am not able to play any shows on my dvr through the fios app on my tablet/phone/website. However, when I am not connected to the google wifi, like using the phones LTE conenction, I am able to use the fios app to watch what I have on my dvr.
Any clues to what is going on or how to fix this? I have had no luck so far, even after calling support.
Check IP address of phone vs STB.
Could be on a different subnet which may cause a routing issue.
Yup, It sure is on a different subnet. Google WiFi bumps the 3rd group up by one where you always are on a different subnet. I tried bridging the fios router with no success also.
I love Google wifi system. Replaced an old Actiontec, provisioned with ethernet. No TV.
From puck 3 2 floors down getting 100/100 up and down.
I'm currently paying for the premium Fios modem / wifi router. I'd love to drop that expense (either totally or at least partially) if I get a mesh set-up. I have an old modem/router that I Fios gave me about 7 years ago. I think I have 75/75 upload/download with Fios. Do you know if the older modem should be able handle those types of speeds so I can have the Google Mesh take over the wireless part, or does it depend on the modem?
I turned off the FiOS Quantum’s wireless radio and set up the mesh system and it’s working great. However, not being able to use the FiOS tv app is a dealbreaker for me. I was thinking of turning the Quantum wireless radio back on, but assigning it a different SSID from the one I created through the Google WiFi unit that’s plugged into the back of the Quantum. My hope is that this will allow the Quantum to communicate with the Verizon STBs and that I would be able to use the FiOS tv app by connecting my phone or tablet to that SSID when needed. Has anyone here tried this yet?
I tried this and it works
@Champ wrote: I tried this and it works
Awesome, thanks!
Hi...
I have Fios 1000/1000 Gigabit service here in DC, with the Quantum router. I have a lot of hard-wired devices, so I also added a 1000/1000 bridge, with lots of extra LAN ports.
I bought the Google WiFi, plugged it into a spare port on my bridge, and it worked right out of the box. Blazing fast internet. All my devices see the WiFi network, and connect flawlessly.
Setup was crazy easy.
I am posting this to help other people with - hmmmmm - less than network-engineer technical abilities. This thing just works. Plug it in, follow the steps in the app, done.
And perfect.
I never went into the router at all. No DNS, no reset, no restart, no turning off my Quantum's WiFi, nothing.
Just works.
And the WiFi speed is about 20% faster than the stock Quantum, using both the SurfaceBook 2 andthe SurfaceGo.
Life is good!
Thanks
Nice. Just curious, do you have fios TV also? If so, can you connect to your set top boxes from the fios tv app and use remove dvr?
Great question.
I do have FIOS TV, but I push it into a TiVo Pro, with a cablecard.
Everything is working perfectly.
To Print from wired FIOS-connected PC to a Google Wifi connected printer:
My connection was easy as well, but had some work to do for interconnectivity afterward: My FIOS router is connected via COAX from the entry point.
I connected my primary Google Wifi (GWF) puck to a wired port on my FIOS Router, and did the setup. I changed all my wireless devices (16 of them...) to use the GWF network instead fo the FIOS wireless. I then turned off the Wifi networks on the FIOS router.
I found an issue today where I was unable to print to my HP Officejet printer, which is in GWF, from my PC, which is wired to the FIOS router.
This makes sense since the GWF and wired network have different subnets, and the GWF primary puck is acting as a router between the networks to allow Internet access for the GWF network. subnets in my case are 192.168.1.0 for fios vs 192.168.86.0 for GWF. I took 3 steps to solve this (requires a certain level of IT abilities, but I will lay out the steps as detailed as I can):
1. I set a route in the FIOS router to the specific IP of the printer, using as a gateway the WAN address (as seen from GWF settings) of the GWF network.
2. I set firewall port rules in GWF for the printer device / ip for TCP ports 9100, 8080, 161, 5357, and 3910. (not sure those are all needed, will narrow it down later)
3. I added the printer to my PC (Windows 10) using a standard TCP printer port.
Details:
1. a. Connect to FIOS router via broswer using the IP and logon.
b. Go to Advanced, Routing, new Route.
c. I added the printer IP specifically (192.168.86.23 - found this in the wireless network settings on the printer) with 255.255.255.255 for the mask - you could do the subnet with .0 and 255.255.255.0 to open a route to all gwf devices. For Gateway, I used the FIOS-side IP of the primary GWF puck:
NOTE: I looked up the IP that the GWF primary puck was using on the FIOS side: In GWF app, go to Settings, Network and General, Wifi Points, and click the primary wifi point to see details. The WAN IP is the IP of the wired connection to the FIOS router.
2. On GWF app, set firewal port rules for the printer ports, to allow traffic between the FIOS and GWF networks:
a. Open GWF App, Go to Settings, Advanced Networking, Port Management.
b. For each port I listed above, Select the printer from the list of devices, select TCP, Enter port number on both the internal and external side, click done.
c. I got the port list from https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/LaserJet-Printing/Firewall-Ports/td-p/6501120.. not sure they are all needed.
d. To test that the ports are working, Open PowerShell on the PC, and do test-netconnection 192.168.86.23 -port 9100. (use the IP of your printer, and test for each of the ports). you should see a successful test.
3. Connect the printer to the PC. Assumes Windows 10.
a. Start, Printers & Scanners, add a printer.
b. Discovery will fail. Click the link for "...printer isn't listed."
c. Choose "Add a printer using a TCP/IP address or hostname"
d. Enter the IP address of the printer.
e. Select printer manufacturer and model for driver to use if needed / prompted.
f. Print test page.
Thanks for this.
I have google nest mesh and did not do the refresh dns. How do I do this?
also, I ask because my nest system caps out at 80mb/s when I just upgraded to 400mb/s. I tried plugging in my old 1100 Fios router and it gets the 400mb/s, but only when right next to it as I have very thick walls.
My old internet speeds were 75/75. Do you think google nest is stuck on 75/75 because I didn’t refresh the dns??
