Fios Internet and the new Google Wifi mesh routers
donutman925
Newbie

I'm wondering if anyone with fios internet has bought the new Google wifi mesh routers and are using them with the fios G1100 router?

Also is there a way to shut the wireless off on this router and use google's wifi mesh routers instead?

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CRobGauth
Community Leader
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Haven't done it, but there are some general things to consider when using an extra router.

1) You want to use the router as a bridge not as a router. If you don't, you will be unable to use the app as a remote for your stbs.

2) Are you having an issue with wifi coverage? It may be cheaper to just get an extra router as a bridge vs google mesh. I believe they aren't cheap.

donutman925
Newbie

Are you talking about the app for phones and tablets? If so then that will be ok since i dont use any of verizons apps and i only have internet through fios. tv is directv. The other reply stated i could just turn all the wifi off on the myfiosgateway which i did find those settings. At that point I think I would just have to run an ethernet cable from the g1100 router to the wifi mesh routers and i should be alright i think.

Yes I am having an issue with wifi coverage at the end of my house where the master bedroom is. Signal not that great. the g1100 is in the living room. I'm also looking to have more wifi coverage out in the yard when im doing yard work and stuff and the external garage. The google wifi mesh router have been getting really good reviews and the price of them is cheaper than alternatives and i can add more mesh routers in the future if i need them. thanks for the reply

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jonjones1
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@donutman925 wrote:

I'm wondering if anyone with fios internet has bought the new Google wifi mesh routers and are using them with the fios G1100 router?

Also is there a way to shut the wireless off on this router and use google's wifi mesh routers instead?


Yes simply log in to the Verizon router under wifi and turn it off. Make sure all three are turned off. 2.4, 5 and guest networks.

most routers can be placed into AP (Access Point) mode. This makes the Verizon router receive the DNS and it just mirrors on the AP routers setup. Very easy to do.

there is a FAQ at DSL Reports that shows and explains the different set up.

https://www.dslreports.com/forum/vzfiber

You can search for it at the link above.

additionally if you just want to use your own router you must first do a dns release/renew (then turn it off immediately)before it receives a new dns from Verizon.

you then take the Ethernet cable and plug it into your own supplied router, then turn it on. It should obtain a dns from Verizon and you should be good to go.

Good Luck 

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donutman925
Newbie

Ok i did find those settings on the myfiosgateway.  I wonder if i turn all 3 of those settings off and just run an ethernet cable from the g1100 to the google wifi mesh router which is required to do, theoritcally that should work and enable the mesh routers to create their own wifi network.

I havent bought the google wifi mesh routers yet. Just looking to see if anyone out there has bought these thats using fios interent only. All the reviews i have seen on them people are using comcast internet.

Are there instructions for the dns release/renew?

thanks for the help

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jonjones1
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@donutman925 wrote:

Ok i did find those settings on the myfiosgateway.  I wonder if i turn all 3 of those settings off and just run an ethernet cable from the g1100 to the google wifi mesh router which is required to do, theoritcally that should work and enable the mesh routers to create their own wifi network.

I havent bought the google wifi mesh routers yet. Just looking to see if anyone out there has bought these thats using fios interent only. All the reviews i have seen on them people are using comcast internet.

Are there instructions for the dns release/renew?

thanks for the help


Yep it's that simple. The Verizon router grabs the dns, the Ethernet cable then is plugged from the available LAN port into the wan (yellow) port on the google router or any other router. Set the google etc. to access point and you will be all set.

it really does not matter what brand of router you use in place of the Verizon one, it can be a stand alone connection (just Ethernet from the ont to your own router) or Ethernet to the Verizon router and your router set as an access point. Instructions for this would be in your router documentation.

however if you have tv and phone the install will require the Verizon router to be in the equation.

Good Luck

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syacker
Newbie

"however if you have tv and phone the install will require the Verizon router to be in the equation"

I do have TV and phone from Fios too.  Looks like my Quantum has ethernet coming from ONT into WAN and also coax.  I work from home and have kids who'd kill me if the WiFi isn't working so I need to get this right.  Would someone please list out the actions to follow, including any details or screen shots for each step?  THANK YOU in advance.

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jonjones1
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@syacker wrote:

"however if you have tv and phone the install will require the Verizon router to be in the equation"

I do have TV and phone from Fios too.  Looks like my Quantum has ethernet coming from ONT into WAN and also coax.  I work from home and have kids who'd kill me if the WiFi isn't working so I need to get this right.  Would someone please list out the actions to follow, including any details or screen shots for each step?  THANK YOU in advance.


This link here is what you should follow.  https://www.dslreports.com/faq/verizonfios?Again it's easier to just set the google router as access point mode (look into the owners instructions on how to set AP mode)

then go into the Quantum G1100 manual and read how to turn off the wifi on the Quantum Gateway. Then your wifi will be through the Google router.

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HenryFarpolo
Contributor - Level 2

You can only set the Google to AP mode if you have a single unit. If you have the three pack, you cannot.

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Flynnibus
Enthusiast - Level 1

The issue is google wifi doesn't run as AP mode when using it as a mesh router.  It must be the nat router

jonjones1
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@Flynnibus wrote:

The issue is google wifi doesn't run as AP mode when using it as a mesh router.  It must be the nat router


https://support.google.com/wifi/answer/6280578?hl=en

Yep here is the various ways to use it. 

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Champ2
Enthusiast - Level 2

I was able to successfully hookup google wifi with the fios gateway router.

Everything works - TV/Phone/Internet/On demand/Guide/DVR

The only thing that I am not able to do is while I am connected to the google wifi network, I am not able to play any shows on my dvr through the fios app on my tablet/phone/website.  However, when I am not connected to the google wifi, like using the phones LTE conenction, I am able to use the fios app to watch what I have on my dvr. 

Any clues to what is going on or how to fix this?  I have had no luck so far, even after calling support. 

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CRobGauth
Community Leader
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Check IP address of phone vs STB.

Could be on a different subnet which may cause a routing issue.

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Champ2
Enthusiast - Level 2

Yup, It sure is on a different subnet.  Google WiFi bumps the 3rd group up by one where you always are on a different subnet.  I tried bridging the fios router with no success also.

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CRobGauth
Community Leader
Community Leader

You will need to put routing in FIOS router to point to address behind Google Mesh.

Champ2
Enthusiast - Level 2

Would by chance have directions on how to do that?

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CRobGauth
Community Leader
Community Leader

I do not.

Try googling it.

Or try looking at menus to see how to add routes.

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William43
Newbie

I have google nest mesh and did not do the refresh dns. How do I do this? 

also, I ask because my nest system caps out at 80mb/s when I just upgraded to 400mb/s. I tried plugging in my old 1100 Fios router and it gets the 400mb/s, but only when right next to it as I have very thick walls. 

My old internet speeds were 75/75. Do you think google nest is stuck on 75/75 because I didn’t refresh the dns??

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belltanic
Newbie

I love Google wifi system. Replaced an old Actiontec, provisioned with ethernet. No TV.

From puck 3    2 floors down getting 100/100 up and down. 

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dabernstein
Newbie

I'm currently paying for the premium Fios modem / wifi router.  I'd love to drop that expense (either totally or at least partially) if I get a mesh set-up.  I have an old modem/router that I Fios gave me about 7 years ago.  I think I have 75/75 upload/download with Fios.  Do you know if the older modem should be able handle those types of speeds so I can have the Google Mesh take over the wireless part, or does it depend on the modem?

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GASMAN2
Enthusiast - Level 1

I turned off the FiOS Quantum’s wireless radio and set up the mesh system and it’s working great. However, not being able to use the FiOS tv app is a dealbreaker for me. I was thinking of turning the Quantum wireless radio back on, but assigning it a different SSID from the one I created through the Google WiFi unit that’s plugged into the back of the Quantum. My hope is that this will allow the Quantum to communicate with the Verizon STBs and that I would be able to use the FiOS tv app by connecting my phone or tablet to that SSID when needed. Has anyone here tried this yet?

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