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For the past 4-5 days, I've been working with various Verizon techs to resolve a high latency/slow Internet problem. Their ultimate solution was that they have no idea why it's doing this, and since I can reach a few websites at full speed and their line tests show I'm operating at full provisioning, it's not their problem. "We can't control traffic outside of our networks." Well, my results are also showing problems with the Verizon servers, so I would think they should be more concerned. Most websites, however, exhibit the problem. So I'm stuck, looking for a better answer than "go away." Maybe some of you are experiencing a similar problem with latency or sporadic speeds?
My provisioning is 20M/5M. I'm in the L.A. area. (In the traceroutes below, I masked Hop 2 for privacy.)
I've experienced this problem with 2 computers (1 desktop, 1 laptop), both using Ethernet ports; one test using wireless on the laptop. I've plugged the router directly into the ONT coax to eliminate my house wiring as the culprit. Westell 9100EM router.
A few websites seem okay, and speedtest.net results always show provisioning at full speed to the L.A. server, but the problem persists when using the non-L.A. server. With speakeasy.net, even the L.A. server exhibits the problem. The latency gets worse as the night goes on, sometimes over 1000ms for some traceroute hops. In the morning, it seems to be back to normal.
Thanks for any help....
Jeff
Some examples...
In the past 2 mornings, I've had good results:
Speed Test (speakeasy.net, Los Angeles): ~ 19798K/4581K
Speed Test (speedtest.net, Los Angeles): always shows full provisioning ~19.74M, 4.56M, 19ms ping
Speed Test (speedtest.net, Dallas): ~ 19.81M/4.37M, 49ms ping
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [74.125.19.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms xxxx.xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx.verizon-gni.net [173.55.xxx.xxx]
3 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms G4-0-6-1142.LSANCA-LCR-11.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.122]
4 11 ms 53 ms 11 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.244]
5 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms 0.so-1-2-0.XL3.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.133]
6 12 ms 11 ms 13 ms 0.ge-7-0-0.BR2.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.157]
7 9 ms 12 ms 42 ms xe-11-0-0.edge1.SanJose3.level3.net [4.68.111.249]
8 14 ms 12 ms 17 ms ae-63-60.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.52]
9 21 ms 34 ms 35 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.132.9]
10 26 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae-83-83.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.234]
11 21 ms 22 ms 22 ms ae-3-89.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.142]
12 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms GOOGLE-INC.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.79.43.146]
13 29 ms 34 ms 22 ms 209.85.251.98
14 20 ms 23 ms 19 ms nuq04s01-in-f104.1e100.net [74.125.19.104]
In the past 4-5 evenings, I've had poor results:
Speed Test (speakeasy.net, Los Angeles): ~ 2441K/194K
Speed Test (speedtest.net, Los Angeles): always shows full provisioning ~19.74M, 4.56M, 19ms ping
Speed Test (speedtest.net, Dallas): ~ 8.28M/1.22M, 49ms ping
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [74.125.19.105]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1]
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms xxxx.xxxxx-xxxxx-xxx.verizon-gni.net [173.55.xxx.xxx]
3 531 ms 502 ms 514 ms G4-0-6-1242.LSANCA-LCR-12.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.162]
4 519 ms 506 ms 530 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.246]
5 563 ms 564 ms 553 ms 0.so-1-2-0.XL4.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.125]
6 577 ms 544 ms 524 ms 0.ge-6-1-0.BR2.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.153]
7 477 ms 469 ms 459 ms xe-10-1-0.edge1.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.68.63.129]
8 11 ms 17 ms 19 ms ae-93-90.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.244]
9 515 ms 559 ms 536 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.132.9]
10 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae-83-83.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.234]
11 524 ms 499 ms 544 ms ae-3-89.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.142]
12 490 ms 479 ms 464 ms GOOGLE-INC.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.79.43.146]
13 24 ms 22 ms 32 ms 209.85.251.98
14 23 ms 22 ms 489 ms nuq04s01-in-f105.1e100.net [74.125.19.105]
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It looks fixed on my end, so I hope this is a permanent thing. My speed tests are back to normal, and I'm seeing much more reasonable latency. Thanks, Brett, for following up.
- Jeff
Taken tonight, 10/30, 12:30am:
Tracing route to verizon.net [206.46.232.39]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1]
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms xxxx.xxxxx-xxxxx-xxx.verizon-gni.net [173.55.xxx.xxx]
3 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms G4-0-6-1142.LSANCA-LCR-11.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.122]
4 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms P14-0-0.LSANCA-LCR-12.verizon-gni.net [130.81.27.31]
5 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.246]
6 49 ms 77 ms 64 ms 130.81.17.27
7 49 ms 50 ms 49 ms so-1-0-0-0.DFW01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.17.66]
8 50 ms 50 ms 49 ms so-1-0-0-0.DFW03-CORE-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.20.157]
9 49 ms 50 ms 49 ms po1.ctn-border1.vzlink.com [206.46.225.85]
10 51 ms 49 ms 54 ms po121.ctn-core1.vzlink.com [206.46.225.18]
11 48 ms 49 ms 50 ms 206.46.228.130
12 49 ms 50 ms 49 ms 206.46.232.39
Trace complete.
Taken tonight, 10/30, 12:40am:
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [74.125.19.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1]
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms xxxx.xxxxx-xxxxx-xxx.verizon-gni.net [173.55.xxx.xxx]
3 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms G4-0-6-1142.LSANCA-LCR-11.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.122]
4 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.244]
5 12 ms 9 ms 10 ms 0.so-1-2-0.XL3.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.133]
6 8 ms 12 ms 10 ms 0.ge-6-0-0.BR2.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.149]
7 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms xe-10-1-0.edge1.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.68.63.129]
8 13 ms 14 ms 17 ms ae-63-60.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.52]
9 33 ms 34 ms 34 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.132.9]
10 32 ms 17 ms 19 ms ae-83-83.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.234]
11 20 ms 22 ms 23 ms ae-3-89.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.142]
12 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms GOOGLE-INC.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.79.43.146]
13 29 ms 22 ms 32 ms 209.85.251.98
14 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms nuq04s01-in-f104.1e100.net [74.125.19.104]
Trace complete.
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Similar problem for me too. I just had FIOS installed and I'm getting excellend download/upload but terrible ping. My results are as follows:
Tracing route to google.com [74.125.67.100]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1]
2 4 ms 4 ms 5 ms L100.LSANCA-VFTTP-142.verizon-gni.net [173.55.53.1]
3 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms G4-0-6-1142.LSANCA-LCR-11.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.122]
4 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.244]
5 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms 0.so-1-2-0.XL3.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.133]
6 11 ms 10 ms 11 ms 0.ge-6-0-0.BR2.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.149]
7 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms 192.205.35.161
8 66 ms 65 ms 66 ms cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.30.134]
9 66 ms 65 ms 65 ms cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.177]
10 104 ms 97 ms 131 ms cr1.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.28.173]
11 65 ms 64 ms 64 ms 12.123.22.5
12 135 ms 124 ms 135 ms 12.88.97.6
13 110 ms 199 ms 92 ms 72.14.233.54
14 66 ms 119 ms 119 ms 72.14.239.127
15 152 ms 167 ms 162 ms 209.85.255.194
16 120 ms 107 ms 111 ms gw-in-f100.1e100.net [74.125.67.100]
Trace complete.
Granted these results are also 4x better than they were 10 min ago. I was getting most pings in the 400 range but a couple were over 600! What's going on Verizon?
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MisterJefferson, your problem looks to be with hop #3. That is a Verizon router just after the gateway router for you. This will need to be addressed by a Verizon Network technician. Your hops to your router and your hop to the gateway look fine. Verizon will need to reboot that second router or re-route your hops.
Chernabog, yours is more difficult, you dont have any obvious big issue. However you do have a moderate jump at hop number 8. this is off the verizon network and is out on the internet. on one of the ATT routers. Unlikely you are going to be able to do anything about this. And as it is off the Verizon network, there would be nothing verizon could do about it either. Usually though, if it is a router needing rebooting, it will generally self correct after a few days. Or you could be unlucky enough to be going through a system that is overloaded or just plain old. This can be frustraiting. I myself play a lot of online games and if the server is in Washington DC (I'm in California) one of the hops I have to go through is in kentucky with sprintlink and their routers constantly give me a 500ms ping and I havent been able to get it corrected in over 4 years. Something we sometimes have to live with when it is out of our control.
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MisterJefferson I also noticed that the Hop number 3 changed between your good results and your bad results.
On the good it was
3 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms G4-0-6-1142.LSANCA-LCR-11.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.122]
On the bad it was
3 531 ms 502 ms 514 ms G4-0-6-1242.LSANCA-LCR-12.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.162]
So it looks like when they switch you to that LCR-12 you have an issue. I'd contact Verizon Tech support, tell them that you are having a network issue and have them contact a network technition and have them look at that IP 130.81.140.162. It likely needs to be rebooted, reset, or replaced.
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Well, I'm glad it's not just me -- also getting terrible ping the last week or so. I used to see pings in the ~20ms range throughout the entire day, but now I am experiencing the same behavior: good ping in the morning, and successively worse and worse values throughout the day. Sometimes going higher than ~900ms in the evening. I'm also in Los Angeles.
Here are the results of my traceroute:
traceroute: Warning: www.l.google.com has multiple addresses; using 74.125.19.105
traceroute to www.l.google.com (74.125.19.105), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 myrouter (192.168.1.1) 0.634 ms 0.331 ms 0.478 ms
2 l100.lsanca-vfttp-142.verizon-gni.net (173.55.53.1) 7.985 ms 6.892 ms 7.483 ms
3 g4-0-6-1242.lsanca-lcr-12.verizon-gni.net (130.81.140.162) 210.618 ms 219.254 ms 202.147 ms
4 so-4-3-0-0.lax01-bb-rtr2.verizon-gni.net (130.81.29.246) 205.109 ms 194.284 ms 210.358 ms
5 0.so-1-2-0.xl4.lax15.alter.net (152.63.10.125) 259.831 ms 201.562 ms 207.601 ms
6 0.ge-6-1-0.br2.lax15.alter.net (152.63.116.153) 15.467 ms 24.865 ms 27.213 ms
7 xe-10-1-0.edge1.losangeles9.level3.net (4.68.63.129) 227.344 ms 214.266 ms 198.670 ms
8 ae-93-90.ebr3.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.144.244) 11.946 ms
ae-73-70.ebr3.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.144.116) 214.004 ms
ae-83-80.ebr3.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.144.180) 207.058 ms
9 ae-2.ebr3.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.132.9) 217.253 ms 228.709 ms 245.033 ms
10 ae-73-73.csw2.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.134.230) 27.427 ms 34.813 ms 36.956 ms
11 ae-2-79.edge1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.68.18.78) 250.562 ms 239.283 ms 232.337 ms
12 google-inc.edge1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.79.43.146) 232.339 ms 211.787 ms 235.336 ms
13 209.85.251.98 (209.85.251.98) 252.116 ms 271.735 ms 229.820 ms
14 nuq04s01-in-f105.1e100.net (74.125.19.105) 19.967 ms 21.635 ms 25.225 ms
So hop #3 is the start of my woes; it is the EXACT switch/router location as MisterJefferson: 130.81.140.162.
What can we do about this? I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly) that Verizon is not equipped to troubleshoot this issue over the phone; I don't have a lot of confidence, based on other support calls to various services, that the customer support person has a script to deal with this type of repair request -- since it's not a repair that needs to be done to customer-owned equipment.
It's reassuring that the issue can be duplicated by someone other than myself. I'm hoping to resolve this since we have otherwise been really happy with the quality of the FIOS connection, which is amazing.
N
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Yup, you have the same problem with the same router. Once one of you get to Verizon tech support and speak to a network technician, then once the techs are able to get that router either rebooted replaced then both your issues will likely be corrected. Your right that one of the front line agents that you get when you call, will not be able to help you. They will need to get this to one of the network technicians. Hopefully, you'll get an agent that knows to send network related trouble up the line.
3 g4-0-6-1242.lsanca-lcr-12.verizon-gni.net (130.81.140.162) 21 0.618 ms 219.254 ms 202.147 ms
maybe one of the employees here on the board can take it to one of their network techs for a look.
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MisterJefferson .. If your still having a latency issue please direct message me your info so I can get this issue resolved thanks Brett
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Great to see you here Brett - MisterJefferson and I have the same issue; I took a look at the new traceroute info (as of this morning 10.23.09) and there is an improvement in the routing:
traceroute: Warning: www.l.google.com has multiple addresses; using 74.125.19.104
traceroute to www.l.google.com (74.125.19.104), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 myrouter (192.168.1.1) 0.564 ms 0.350 ms 0.488 ms
2 l100.lsanca-vfttp-142.verizon-gni.net (173.55.53.1) 7.978 ms 6.874 ms 19.982 ms
3 g4-0-6-1142.lsanca-lcr-11.verizon-gni.net (130.81.140.122) 10.477 ms 8.849 ms 10.232 ms
4 so-4-3-0-0.lax01-bb-rtr1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.29.244) 12.486 ms 12.092 ms 12.217 ms
5 0.so-1-2-0.xl3.lax15.alter.net (152.63.10.133) 12.218 ms 11.845 ms 12.466 ms
6 0.ge-7-0-0.br2.lax15.alter.net (152.63.116.157) 99.945 ms
0.ge-6-0-0.br2.lax15.alter.net (152.63.116.149) 107.061 ms 122.270 ms
7 xe-11-0-0.edge1.sanjose3.level3.net (4.68.111.249) 12.437 ms
xe-10-1-0.edge1.losangeles9.level3.net (4.68.63.129) 116.309 ms
xe-11-0-0.edge1.sanjose3.level3.net (4.68.111.249) 11.872 ms
8 ae-63-60.ebr3.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.144.52) 14.479 ms 17.096 ms
ae-73-70.ebr3.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.144.116) 94.683 ms
9 ae-2.ebr3.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.132.9) 109.825 ms 111.811 ms 112.170 ms
10 ae-83-83.csw3.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.134.234) 112.451 ms 106.826 ms 107.922 ms
11 ae-3-89.edge1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.68.18.142) 22.468 ms 21.347 ms 22.722 ms
12 google-inc.edge1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.79.43.146) 122.187 ms 117.049 ms 137.157 ms
13 209.85.251.98 (209.85.251.98) 127.426 ms 122.161 ms 149.677 ms
14 nuq04s01-in-f104.1e100.net (74.125.19.104) 145.379 ms 144.021 ms 127.655 ms
The ping is still hovering around ~130ms so the problematic equipment appears to be at hop #6 and #7 which do not seem to belong to Verizon; can the route be tweaked further?
Thanks for working on this,
nestacio
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Yeah, your hop 3 is back to router #11 again. same as MisterJefferson does in the morning. In the morning you two go through #11 but in the afternoon, you go through router #12 and #12 is the problem.
unfortunatly each hop determines where the next one will go. so hop 5 determins hop 6 and so forth. Now your good on the verizon system and good on the first hop out of the verizon network. Verizon will not be able to do anything to avoid hop 6 now. Now it is a problem with the alter.net systems. This is the problem I run into, bad hops beyond Verizon. Unfortunatly there is likely nothing that can be done, short of contacting alter.net that is and praying that they give a **bleep** about someone other than their own customers. like I said in an earlier post. I've been having the same kind of problem with some routers run by sprintlink and it took me nearly 6 months to get ahold of them and they basically told me to take a flying leap since I was not their customer.
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Ok, Spacedebris is correct, the problem is NOT resolved, LCR-12 at 130.81.140.162 is NOTbeing re-routed, both MisterJefferson and I are being switched over from LCR-11 to LCR-12 in the evenings here in Los Angeles.
This is a problem.
Here is the traceroute as of 5:30pm Friday 10.23.09:
.......
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [74.125.19.103]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 6 ms 7 ms L100.LSANCA-VFTTP-142.verizon-gni.net [173.55.53.1]
3 458 ms 444 ms 459 ms G4-0-6-1242.LSANCA-LCR-12.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.162]
4 448 ms 409 ms 430 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.246]
5 416 ms 412 ms 421 ms 0.so-1-2-0.XL4.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.125]
6 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms 0.ge-7-1-0.BR2.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.161]
7 414 ms 406 ms 419 ms xe-10-1-0.edge1.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.68.63.129]
8 471 ms 494 ms 509 ms ae-73-70.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.116]
9 513 ms 502 ms 525 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.132.9]
10 531 ms 534 ms 531 ms ae-93-93.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.238]
11 514 ms 454 ms 449 ms ae-4-99.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.206]
12 453 ms 437 ms 454 ms GOOGLE-INC.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.79.43.146]
13 440 ms 447 ms 454 ms 209.85.251.98
14 492 ms 474 ms 446 ms nuq04s01-in-f103.1e100.net [74.125.19.103]
Trace complete.
.......
Brett / Verizon: can you fix this equipment? A 458ms ping is unacceptable. I will look around the customer service pages to see if I can open a ticket to get this resolved. If not, I will try and escalate to a manager.
In addition, alter.net is owned by Verizon Business; see prior posts. LCR-11 works in the morning until it hits alter.net. There is a breakdown in the equipment when it hits that equipment as well. Verizon, wth?
Neil
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1. http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3411/latencyw.jpg
2. [edit]
3. http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8881/vzdiag.jpg
4. http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1575/tracert.jpg
Four images for your consideration. All are screenshots taken within a 10 minute timeframe. These screenshots show that in no way is my issue unique to one ATT server that I will hardly ever connect to. This is an issue that is affecting everything I am trying to connect to.
I tried to use the FIOS speed optimizer which was unsuccessful in doing it's job. I tried to run it on multiple computers with multiple OS's on both wired and wireless connections. ALL failed. I'm thinking that my router or the lines that were installed in my house or neighborhood are [edit] . I'm not going to pay for a service that I'm not receiving.
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I believe i'm suffering from the same problem:
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [74.125.19.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Wireless_Broadband_Router.home [192.168.1.1]
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms L100.LSANCA-VFTTP-142.verizon-gni.net [173.55.53
.1]
3 561 ms 537 ms 559 ms G4-0-6-1242.LSANCA-LCR-12.verizon-gni.net [130.8
1.140.162]
4 595 ms 571 ms 595 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.29.246]
5 578 ms 594 ms 604 ms 0.so-1-2-0.XL4.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.125]
6 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms 0.ge-6-1-0.BR2.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.153]
7 11 ms 12 ms 14 ms xe-10-1-0.edge1.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.68.63.
129]
8 15 ms 17 ms 17 ms ae-73-70.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.1
16]
9 21 ms 23 ms 29 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.132.9]
10 671 ms 682 ms 701 ms ae-73-73.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.230]
11 662 ms 729 ms 724 ms ae-2-79.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.78]
12 643 ms 656 ms 630 ms GOOGLE-INC.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.79.43.14
6]
13 21 ms 21 ms 30 ms 209.85.251.98
14 20 ms 19 ms 21 ms nuq04s01-in-f147.1e100.net [74.125.19.147]
Trace complete.
This seems to also be impact my teleworking ability. My companies data center is in Irvine, Ca and i'm getting VERY high latency to our corporate firewall. The hops jump inside alter.net's network which is Verizon business's network.
Please fix this ASAP, we have other teleworkers in the southern california area who have FIOS and are impacted by this.
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I thought I'd post an update, since you guys have been helpful; I just sent Brett a more detailed response. No, I'm not fixed yet. I had a Verizon tech come out to the house today and swapped out the ONT, but as I figured, it wouldn't fix it since my problem is further down the network chain. But apparently the field techs are only responsible for the signal to the central office, which he says looks fine.
The other day, one phone tech had me run traceroutes to "verizon.net" instead of google.com; this shows my problem is within the Verizon network before I even reach the Internet. Consequently, I wrote a Perl script to run traceroutes every 5 minutes so I have 24/7 data to compare, if needed. I'm also running PingPlotter.
Here's a traceroute from a few minutes ago (10/24/09, Saturday, 4:50P PDT):
Tracing route to verizon.net [206.46.232.39]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1]
2 5 ms 7 ms 7 ms xxx.xxxxx-xxxxx-xxx.verizon-gni.net [173.55.xxx.xxx]
3 862 ms 876 ms 859 ms G4-0-6-1242.LSANCA-LCR-12.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.162]
4 848 ms 814 ms 797 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.246]
5 831 ms 839 ms 809 ms 130.81.17.27
6 46 ms 49 ms 47 ms so-1-0-0-0.DFW01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.17.66]
7 46 ms 47 ms 48 ms so-1-0-0-0.DFW03-CORE-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81.20.157]
8 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms po1.ctn-border1.vzlink.com [206.46.225.85]
9 856 ms 887 ms 882 ms po121.ctn-core1.vzlink.com [206.46.225.18]
10 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 206.46.228.130
11 53 ms 47 ms 47 ms 206.46.232.39
Trace complete.
I also have a PingPlotter chart from the past day or two. It shows that the net bogs down in the morning and gets progressively worse (up to about 1250ms latency) around 10-11pm, then tapers off until 2-3am.
PingPlot: http://www.warmhaven.com/test/2009-10-24_1635.gif
The field tech said he'd forward some of my charts to his boss for a callback. So I'm in a holding pattern.
Jeff
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More information:
ping www.verizon.net
Pinging e3002.b.akamaiedge.net [96.6.252.79] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 96.6.252.79: bytes=32 time=703ms TTL=54
Reply from 96.6.252.79: bytes=32 time=663ms TTL=54
Reply from 96.6.252.79: bytes=32 time=696ms TTL=54
Reply from 96.6.252.79: bytes=32 time=663ms TTL=54
Ping statistics for 96.6.252.79:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 663ms, Maximum = 703ms, Average = 681ms
Tracing route to e3002.b.akamaiedge.net [96.6.252.79]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Wireless_Broadband_Router.home [192.168.1.1]
2 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms L100.LSANCA-VFTTP-142.verizon-gni.net [173.55.53
.1]
3 760 ms 744 ms 797 ms G4-0-6-1242.LSANCA-LCR-12.verizon-gni.net [130.8
1.140.162]
4 750 ms 723 ms 732 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.29.246]
5 696 ms 729 ms 696 ms 0.so-1-2-0.XL4.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.125]
6 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 0.ge-6-1-0.BR2.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.153]
7 43 ms 14 ms 11 ms xe-10-1-0.edge1.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.68.63.
129]
8 20 ms 17 ms 16 ms ae-63-60.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.5
2]
9 23 ms 19 ms 32 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.132.9]
10 31 ms 19 ms 31 ms ae-83-83.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.234]
11 20 ms 19 ms 23 ms ae-33-89.car3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.133]
12 618 ms 606 ms 594 ms a96-6-252-79.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [96.6
.252.79]
Trace complete.
Obviosly verizon.net is outsourced to Akamia but again, latency jumps up inside Verizon's network. Someone needs to get eyes on those hops to see what is wrong.
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I have been having this problem too, except it has been a little over a week ( 1 week and 2 days, to be exact) since it has started happening. Using speedtest.net, I noticed that connecting, uploading, downloading, and the latency around Los Angeles (near my area) is working perfectly. However, as I try to connect to places around East of the United States, my latency becomes outrageous (500-700?!). The middle states work fine; it's just the states closer to the east coast. Also, my results after testing my connection to Europe appear to be a little bit higher than normal, although it is a far sight better than what I got in Eastern United States.
I really hope this problem gets fixed fast; I often have trouble and terrible lag in doing tasks online or in an online game I play (Soldierfont, IJJI), mostly in the Eastern U.S. servers. 😞
Also it appears that results get a tiny bit better in the mornings than compared to those at night. At around past 10:00 pm my connection is almost dead 😛 At least it was a relief that this wasn't my computers problem.
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Im having this same problem for a week and I also live in Chino hills
My ping to the Philadelphia server is 888ms with a jitter of 68ms on pingtest.net. But when i ping the San Francisco server, its perfectly "normal" with around 20-30 ms.
http://www.pingtest.net/result/1765466.png
My friend who also has fios lives about 500ft from me and in Chino hills. He pings 126ms to the Philly serve in comparison to my 888.
This is my tracert to google.com
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [74.125.19.106]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1]
2 5 ms 14 ms 4 ms L100.LSANCA-VFTTP-142.verizon-gni.net [173.55.53
.1]
3 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms G4-0-6-1142.LSANCA-LCR-11.verizon-gni.net [130.8
1.140.122]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.29.244]
5 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms 0.so-1-2-0.XL3.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.133]
6 795 ms 759 ms 817 ms 0.ge-7-0-0.BR2.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.157]
7 786 ms 10 ms 854 ms xe-10-1-0.edge1.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.68.63.
129]
8 13 ms 17 ms 833 ms ae-73-70.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.1
16]
9 24 ms 29 ms 24 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.132.9]
10 21 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae-83-83.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.234]
11 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae-3-89.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.142]
12 22 ms 17 ms 17 ms GOOGLE-INC.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.79.43.14
6]
13 816 ms 800 ms 730 ms 209.85.251.98
14 20 ms 26 ms 19 ms nuq04s01-in-f106.1e100.net [74.125.19.106]
Whats strange is that my friend gets a very similar tracert with the high MS on certain hops. But his general internet speed is "fine"
Is there any fix to this yet? or _soon_
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I have been having similar issues as well for the past 10 days. Also live in Chino Hills.
Taken at 9:00pm PST
Tracing route to verizon.net [206.46.232.39]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1]
2 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms L100.LSANCA-VFTTP-142.verizon-gni.net [173.55.53
.1]
3 8 ms 8 ms 10 ms G4-0-6-1142.LSANCA-LCR-11.verizon-gni.net [130.8
1.140.122]
4 8 ms 9 ms 10 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.29.244]
5 45 ms 45 ms 45 ms so-3-3-0-0.DFW01-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.81
.19.18]
6 45 ms 52 ms 58 ms so-1-0-0-0.DFW03-CORE-RTR1.verizon-gni.net [130.
81.20.157]
7 45 ms 45 ms 45 ms po1.ctn-border1.vzlink.com [206.46.225.85]
8 45 ms 45 ms 46 ms po121.ctn-core1.vzlink.com [206.46.225.18]
9 1154 ms 1146 ms 1155 ms 206.46.228.130
10 1189 ms 1296 ms 1253 ms 206.46.232.39
Trace complete.
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I also live in Chino Hills, CA. For two weeks now, Verizon FIOS connection SUCK! I called FIOS support and no one seems to know or admit there is a problem in the SoCal area. Here's my trace route to LATimes. It's so **bleep** slow across the board - google.com, youtube, espn, etc... I have a ticket opened and after the first callback, i haven't received any more updates or info on what's going on.
$ tracert latimes.com
Tracing route to latimes.com [144.142.224.43]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms Wireless_Broadband_Router.home [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 6 ms 7 ms L100.LSANCA-VFTTP-142.verizon-gni.net [173.55.53.1]
3 1147 ms 1224 ms 1205 ms G4-0-6-1242.LSANCA-LCR-12.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.162]
4 1146 ms 1228 ms 1228 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.246]
5 1227 ms 1228 ms 1229 ms 0.so-6-2-0.XT2.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.49]
6 1226 ms 1228 ms 1228 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL4.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.61]
7 1191 ms 1067 ms 1025 ms POS7-0-0.GW3.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.112.109]
8 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms internapGIGE-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.236.110]
9 1104 ms 1126 ms 1126 ms border21.po1-20g-bbnet1.lax.pnap.net [216.52.255.38]
10 1124 ms 1228 ms 1228 ms tribune-1.border21.lax.pnap.net [216.52.220.154]
11 1059 ms 1192 ms 1228 ms secure.latimes.com [144.142.224.43]
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From Chino Hills again. here's my traceroute to google.com. Same network latency problem. I've been paying monthly for a high speed connection and i'm getting Dial-up speed for more than a week now !!! What's the point of paying for FIBER if you get modem speed !!! and I'm not getting a response from Verizon. They kept on asking me to reset my router. I told them my friend who lives in the same city a few miles away has the same exact problem so I don't know how a router reset would work! Obviously it's something in the Verizon network.
$ tracert www.google.com
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [74.125.19.105]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms Wireless_Broadband_Router.home [192.168.1.1]
2 6 ms 7 ms 7 ms L100.LSANCA-VFTTP-142.verizon-gni.net [173.55.53.1]
3 1264 ms 1228 ms 1228 ms G4-0-6-1242.LSANCA-LCR-12.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.162]
4 1226 ms 1228 ms 1126 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.246]
5 1230 ms 1225 ms 1228 ms 0.so-1-2-0.XL4.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.125]
6 56 ms 60 ms 54 ms 0.ge-7-1-0.BR2.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.161]
7 1094 ms 1228 ms 1228 ms xe-10-1-0.edge1.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.68.63.129]
8 1209 ms 1126 ms 1234 ms ae-73-70.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.116]
9 1203 ms 1228 ms 1228 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.132.9]
10 59 ms 52 ms 54 ms ae-63-63.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.226]
11 63 ms 59 ms 62 ms ae-1-69.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.14]
12 63 ms 72 ms 72 ms GOOGLE-INC.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.79.43.146]
13 1363 ms 1228 ms 1228 ms 209.85.251.98
14 57 ms 62 ms 54 ms nuq04s01-in-f105.1e100.net [74.125.19.105]
Trace complete.
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Im getting different hops tonight in comparison to last night
C:\Users\pc>tracert www.google.com
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [74.125.19.103]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1]
2 5 ms 5 ms 4 ms L100.LSANCA-VFTTP-142.verizon-gni.net [173.55.53.1]
3 965 ms 972 ms 1007 ms G4-0-6-1242.LSANCA-LCR-12.verizon-gni.net [130.81.140.162]
4 1012 ms 1040 ms 1003 ms so-4-3-0-0.LAX01-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.29.246]
5 1026 ms 1021 ms 1006 ms 0.so-1-2-0.XL4.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.125]
6 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 0.ge-7-1-0.BR2.LAX15.ALTER.NET [152.63.116.161]
7 1038 ms 1038 ms 1039 ms xe-10-1-0.edge1.LosAngeles9.Level3.net [4.68.63.129]
8 18 ms 12 ms 14 ms ae-93-90.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.144.244]
9 22 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.132.9]
10 17 ms 17 ms 25 ms ae-83-83.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.234]
11 53 ms 25 ms 19 ms ae-3-89.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.142]
12 17 ms 17 ms 19 ms GOOGLE-INC.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.79.43.146]
13 1089 ms 1055 ms 1010 ms 209.85.251.98
14 18 ms 18 ms 19 ms nuq04s01-in-f103.1e100.net [74.125.19.103]
Trace complete.
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All who are having latency issues please monitor & provied new trace routes. Per notes they are looking for an update to see if issue was corrected. Thanks all again we will continue on this issue untill resolved. Thanks Brett