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Just had fios installed TV and internet.
ONT has coax and cat5 running to verizon router and coax also running to cable box
I would like to use my own router instead of the verizon router. I have a netgear nighthawk and I need it to get wifi throughout my house.
I also have a buch of ports forwarded for a surveillance system.
I tried plugging the cat5 from the ONT directly into my router but it wouldnt connect to the internet.
Is this possible
Thanks
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I have a good idea of whats up here. Just to re-confirm, your nighthawk is connected, and you can access the internet from it?
I believe the problem is that your Nighthawk is handing out LAN IPs in the range of 192.168.1.X, which is also what the G1100 hands out, so the G1100 and Nighthawk network are overlapping.
You'll need to change the IP range that the G1100 uses for the set top boxes. To do this, please login to the G1100 (Easiest way to do this would be to plug an ethernet cable from the G1100 into your computer). Go to http://192.168.1.1/ and enter the username and password listed on the side of the router.
Once you've logged in follow these steps:
Click My Network at the top of the screen. Then click Network Connections on the sidebar of the page that will appear.
Click on Network (Home/Office).
Click the Settings button at the bottom of the page.
Look for the portion of the settings page which says Use the following IP address:, you should see 192.168.1.1. This is what you have to change.
Change the address to 192.168.5.1.
You just need to change two more settings before moving on. Scroll down a bit to the IP Address Distribution section. You'll see a "Start IP address" and "End IP address" section. Change these from 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.254 to 192.168.5.2 and 192.168.5.254.
Your configuration should look like this (images may not always show up due to them needing moderated manually):
Lastly, click Apply at the bottom of the page. The Verizon router will reboot. Reboot your set top boxes, and check for connectivity.
I'm 99% sure this should solve your issue
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Ahhhh okay.
The problem here is your router is not actually routing. Your laptop is requesting DHCP, but instead of getting a 192.168.1.x address, its getting an actual internet address from Verizon.
Please unplug the ethernet cable from Verizon going into the Netgear router. With this cable unplugged, try unplugging then pluggin your laptop's cable back into the router. Run that command again.
If you still don't have an IP address of 192.168.1.x, the router is broken. Try once more with no devices in it to hold in the reset button. Otherwise you'll have to take it back to Netgear
Wish I could be of more assistance remotely.
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When I unplug cable coming from ONT, the IP becomes 169.254.55.153. Subnet remains the same. Everything else becomes blank. When I plug the ethernet again, it goes back to the values as from previous post. I tried to Factory Reset with nothing plugged in, and still the same. So does this mean it is a broken router?
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Unfortunately, yes. 169.x.x.x are addresses that the computer assigns itself when there is no other network available, that value is not assigned from the router.
Was this unit purchased used or refurbished? And how was it performing prior to the Verizon switchover? Although it may seem like it, I can assure you that these problems are not due to using a Verizon connection, regardless of the bad timing.
You can attempt to re-flash the firmware yourself using TFTP, but this option is pretty technical. If you have the option to RMA it, I would try that first.
Otherwise, I could walk you through the TFTP recovery process. Heres some more info on it if you were interested:
- firmware download from netgear http://downloadcenter.netgear.com/en/product/R7000#searchResults
- Steps to use TFTP to reflash router: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Nighthawk-WiFi-Routers/SOLVED-Steps-for-debrick-unresponsive-R7000-...
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Nothing worked. Thanks for all the help though. I even tried to ping router when I had a static IP. Kept on timing out. I believe this one is still covered by the warranty. Will see how it goes with Netgear. Decided to place the G1100 back in until I get this resolved.
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You can completely replace the Verizon supplied router with your own. Immediately after getting my 750/750 installation completed 2 days ago and while the tech was still here, and after teh ONT was activated i plugged in my laptop directly into the ONT ethernet port and did some surfing and extensive speedtests. Right after that, i started using my own router, a Netgear R7000 and i just replaced that with a Ubiquiti ER-8pro to get much closer to GigEthernet switching speeds off of the LAN port. altho the R7000 is highly rated itself by Tim Higgins at SmallNetBuilder as a very close to GigEthernet switchng wired performance winner. In case you did want to use your own router with television Set Top Boxes there is an indepth and extensive guide over at DSL Reports in the Verizon FIOS Most FAQ section about that topic with 10 diffrent ways to do this, i favor methods 6,7 &8, altho method 6 described therein is the easiest and just involves relegating the Verizon Router as a second router behind your own router. Ussing yourown router is best in most cases of power users where a lot of traffic will take place and you dont want NAT table problems and want to maintain top speeds and especially with VLANs and VPN performance, as long as your own router is able to handle that. Refer to SmallNetbuilder for appropriate top performing store bought routers, or use a Vyatta OS based Ubiquiti router which are incredible values, or a build your own with OPNsense or VyOS downloadable install CD's and some X550-T2 Intel cards which are rated with the new N-BAse standard so you can sync with present and future emerging speed tiers, the X550-T2 cards will sync at 100 or GigE or 2.5Gbps or 5 Gbps or 10GBE (10GE), so it gives you quite a bit of flexibility for future growth.
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Just returned to FiOS after a dreaded two-year stint on Cox (which, admittedly, was much easier to configure). I read this entire thread as well as the referenced FAQ on DSL reports, and still have a question:
I have an Asus RT-AC68U which I prefer to use for my own routing and network tasks. Given that I am kind of OCD, I'd prefer to simply use the G1100 to grab the IP from Verizon, and let my Asus hand out all the client IPs via DHCP or fixed IP, depending on whether the device is permanent or guest, including the STB's. But, for simplicity's sake, my assumption was that I should use option #3 from the DSL Reports list to keep all my own traffic behind my router by assigning it a static IP on the G1100, using a different subnet for my own network, and letting the G1100 handle the TV-related issues.
Does this seem like the best option? Whenever I tried in past FiOS subscriptions to put my router in front, it was nearly impossible to get support for line issues without tearing out everything and placing the Verizon router back in front.
Related: I went ahead and bought the G1100, to avoid the monthly charges, and use the Verizon-supplied STB's on my three screens. Each of the STBs is connected via coax, but could they also get all their necessary guide, etc., info off the Ethernet port on the back if I plugged them into my network? If not, WTH is that port on the box for?
Thanks a ton for any help.
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I just had Fios installed this morning and fiddled with a combination of their Quantum router, my own TP-Link router, and the STB for about 2 hours.
I ended up using just my own router with the STB connected to one of the LAN ports. Everything works fine without the need of the Quantum router at all (I'm going to return it). I did configure a static ip of 192.168.1.100 for the STB and had to reboot the STB once but after it came back online, I had full access to "Video on demand" and all the TV listings. By going to Menu->Settings->System Information->(click info button)
on the STB you can check if everything's connected and working.
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@DanKur101 wrote:
All is working but when I do a speedtest from the primary Asus router from speedtest.net, frontierspeedtest or, dslreportsspeedtest I get low upload speeds and bufferbloat from dslreport test. When I do same test on the FIOS-G1100 all is good. all STBs, multi room DVR, guide and, on-demand features are all working. Do I need to reboot the ONT? Should I be able to plug the ethernet cable from ONT directly into PC and get internet; wanted to do a speedtest without router? Any help or thoughts would be much appreciated
The problem many customers are not understanding is Verizon does not guarantee the speeds they state "up to" now having said that you have a problem in Verizon's speed test is from a closed proprietary network. It would be like pinging your own router to see the connect speed. In this case you are not actually going out to the general shared net.
when I do Verizon speed tests I get 956/880 plus or minus on time of day etc.
when I test at speedtest net or dslreports or many other speed sites I get readings all over the place. I have reached 790/680 and many other times 540/430 again higher lower but not by much.
when I first obtained gigabyte service I was at 980/320 and I called tech services.
the first guy said "why complain, you have more speed than what you actually ever had" I pointed out that had nothing to do with it. However he transferred me to a higher level tech who said it was not provisioned correctly. Then in a moment of levity he said he could not get it to adjust. He put a trouble ticket in for engineering to look into it.
After three days I called back and this nice lady said she will text the engineer and find out what was up. This engineer stated it still was not fixed but guaranteed it would be by Monday. And low and behold it was fixed. The readings are still all over the place but it is better than it was.
give Verizon a call to check your provisioning.
Good Luck
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Thanks for the fast reply jonjones,
I have the 75/75 package. My Asus ac88u is plugged into the ONT NIC ethernet port to my WAN. If I speed test any of the Asus LAN ports I get 80+Mbps down and 3 to 10Mbps upload. If I speed test Asus 2G wifi I get 80+ up and down. If test the FIOS-g1100 plugged into Asus LAN to FIOS-G1100 WAN I get 80+Mbps up and down with no bufferbloating as well from dslreports speed test. I can get the provisioned speed from everthing but the Asus LAN ports upload with a sickning amount of bufferbloating.
QoS, Portforwarding or, anything else hasn't been changed yet. Called Asus with no help or understanding what the problem is.
Im gonna unplug router and the ONT-NIC this time for a couple of hours then see if anything changes. Also release DHCP in the Asus prior to connecting.
If this fails, I'll call Frontier and will have to pay 15 extra a month for there 2nd tier service support since they will not give me support for someone elses router.
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@DanKur101 wrote:
Thanks for the fast reply jonjones,
I have the 75/75 package. My Asus ac88u is plugged into the ONT NIC ethernet port to my WAN. If I speed test any of the Asus LAN ports I get 80+Mbps down and 3 to 10Mbps upload. If I speed test Asus 2G wifi I get 80+ up and down. If test the FIOS-g1100 plugged into Asus LAN to FIOS-G1100 WAN I get 80+Mbps up and down with no bufferbloating as well from dslreports speed test. I can get the provisioned speed from everthing but the Asus LAN ports upload with a sickning amount of bufferbloating.
QoS, Portforwarding or, anything else hasn't been changed yet. Called Asus with no help or understanding what the problem is.
Install ASUSWRT-Merlin firmware to your ASUS router. That firmware is customized stock ASUS firmware, and has numerous pages and settings which might help you troubleshoot the issue more. No need to pay the ISP for Tier 2 support, and chances are they won't be of much help anyways.
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@DanKur101 wrote:Thanks for the fast reply jonjones,
I have the 75/75 package. My Asus ac88u is plugged into the ONT NIC ethernet port to my WAN. If I speed test any of the Asus LAN ports I get 80+Mbps down and 3 to 10Mbps upload. If I speed test Asus 2G wifi I get 80+ up and down. If test the FIOS-g1100 plugged into Asus LAN to FIOS-G1100 WAN I get 80+Mbps up and down with no bufferbloating as well from dslreports speed test. I can get the provisioned speed from everthing but the Asus LAN ports upload with a sickning amount of bufferbloating.
QoS, Portforwarding or, anything else hasn't been changed yet. Called Asus with no help or understanding what the problem is.
Im gonna unplug router and the ONT-NIC this time for a couple of hours then see if anything changes. Also release DHCP in the Asus prior to connecting.
If this fails, I'll call Frontier and will have to pay 15 extra a month for there 2nd tier service support since they will not give me support for someone elses router.
I would follow the advice of my friend below. You can update the firmware and that may work. I would also consider the age of the Asus and it may simply be a bad device.
i see the other router is giving you good speed. I would then think faulty device.
i always keep extra routers and switches and cables and connectors etc. since I hate having to mess around with my devices.
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Just to clarify and or muddy the waters, I'll add my network solutions over the years.
I had FiOS Internet and FiOS TV service until last summer when I dropped FiOS TV and went to using a pair of Rokus and Playstation VUE. I have never used a Verizon router (except to activate the service where it seems to be required).
I have always had a Linux firewall/router, but you could substitute that with a Linksys or Netgear router with more or less the same result. I also had a TiVo DVR with a multichannel CableCard because I didn't get along with Verizon's DVR. (It crashed a lot.) My network for around a decade looked like this:
The important thing to note above is that I had both a coax connection and an Ethernet connection from the ONT. The coax provided the video signal to the Verizon STB and the TiVo DVR. The NIM-100 was added when I got FiOS TV to serve as an Ethernet to MoCA bridge that inserted Ethernet data in a fixed range of the frequencies on the coax cable. It existed only to provide the guide information and VOD data for the Verizon STB. (The STB had no Ethernet connection at all.) The TiVo DVR got its guide information from tivo.com over its Ethernet connection. The VOD for the TiVo also came over Ethernet.
Now, with the Rokus, my network looks like this:
I use a pair of Actiontec ECB6200 MoCA adapters to convert Ethernet to (Ethernet over) coax for the purpose of getting Ethernet connectivity to the Roku upstairs. So basically, I found a new purpose for the coax that used to run to the Verizon STB.
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