Latest outdoor Fios ONTs with MoCA support

[lk777777]

Hi all,

I am still on Optimum.

What are the latest Verizon outdoor Fios ONTs with MoCA support installed in New York state zip 10566?

What version of MoCA are  used on those ONTs if any?

Thanks.

[lk777777]

Ok.  Let me rephrase my question.  I am removing my ZIP from my original post.

Does Verizon install any exterior version of  Fios ONTs  equipped with the MoCA adapters?

All my attempts to get this info from Verizon support failed.

Do I need some high level  of security clearance to get this basic technical information?! 👹

This is what I found on the web:

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/16637 

Is this outdated info?

Thanks.

[gs0b]

Welcome to the community!  You're talking mostly to other customers here.

Verizon prefers indoor ONT installations these days.  If an ONT is already installed outside, they may use it.  It will be upgraded if it's not a currently supported model for the service you order.

All speed grades now require Ethernet between the ONT and router.  Even though the ONTs have MoCA, it is not used.  The MoCA hardware inside ONTs can't handle speeds above 100Mbps, which is why Verizon doesn't provision it anymore.

Some people who really need MoCA for the WAN connection will purchase their own MoCA/Ethernet bridges to go between the ONT and router.  This is very difficult to do with outdoor units, as I'm not aware of any outdoor rated MoCA/Ethernet bridges.  You'd also need to figure out how to get power to the bridge and find an enclosure for it.  People who do this usually have indoor ONTs without an easy way to run Ethernet between it and the desired router location.  There are additional concerns if you plan to use MoCA for LAN, so make sure you learn what's needed if you plan on WAN and LAN on coax.

The Verizon techs are usually good at running the fiber inside buildings.  Unless there is something about your building that makes this impossible, I suggest you talk with the Verizon tech when they come to install your service.  They usually will work with people, especially if you're friendly and polite.

[lk777777]

Alcatel-Lucent I-211M-L equipped with MoCA 2.0  ( the Interent search result - ONT Product Information Guide - November 2013).

3FE 54531 AD -  Outdoor ONT enclosure kit equipped with assembly items and basic I-211M-L indoor ONT (3FE 52343 AF). The ONT enclosure has a tamper proof TELCO 216 security screw.

And this is in 2013 .

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@gs0b wrote:

The MoCA hardware inside ONTs can't handle speeds above 100Mbps, which is why Verizon doesn't provision it anymore.

I think they  are equipped with MoCA 2.5 now.

I can't place an order until I know what exactly they are going to install.  In my case, the ONT needs to be installed outdoor.

[gs0b]

Again, Verizon does not provision MoCA WAN anymore.  They only run Ethernet from the ONT.  It does not matter what hardware is in the ONT, Verizon does not use it.

Either figure out how to run Ethernet from your desired ONT location to your desired router location, or purchase a pair of MoCA adapters.  You'll need to install one near the ONT.  If that's also an outdoor location, you'll need to figure out how to power the adapter and make sure it is rated for outdoor operation.

Verizon won't be able to tell you exactly how the install will be done until the tech shows up.  There are simply too many differences in buildings for them to be able to give an authoritative answer without a site survey.  They do that as part of the installation process.  You can always decline an install if you don't like the tech's proposal.

Note that if the location has never had fios installed, the exact location of the fiber drop may not be where you anticipate.  They typically install the drop near where other utilities enter the building, but again, this can vary depending on the specifics of the building and fios infrastructure.

[lk777777]

Ok. Thanks.  I have some experience with the MoCA adapters on the LAN side.

 But why Verizon stopped utilizing MoCA on the WAN side?

"... The MoCA hardware inside ONTs can't handle speeds above 100Mbps,.." is not the case anymore for many years already.

[lk777777 · Accepted solution]

Eventually I have got an answer to my question from the Verizon Fios team.

Actually they do install  exterior ONTs with MoCA on the WAN side and they can provide 1 Gbps speed.