Is Verizon going to announce an availabiltiy date for this new device or what?
Considering the publicity around the announcement, I find it pretty **bleep** odd that not a word has been spoken about tis since CES.
http://newscenter.verizon.com/residential/news-articles/2013/01-verizon-motorola-fios-tv-media-server-ces/
Can we get an update please??
Here's another article.
http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2013-01/verizon-6-tuner-media-server-dvr-arriving-soon/
Seems to be a common theme with Verizon. Not sure why you would announce it in January and still not have it available in Septmeber.
This is probably doomed to never see the light of day.
1. Verizon stopped the rollout of FiOS.
2. Verizon is spending MANY BILLIONS to buyout Vodaphone in order to strengthen their wireless empire.
3. Verizon charges wireless customers $10 per gigabyte of delivered data, which costs them only a penny.
4. Hundreds of millions of people are now spending most of their time on smartphones and LTE enabled tablets and less and less time in front of a tv.
The men in charge of Verizon are tightly focused on the highly profitable wireless market and have already begun to write off the tv programming delivery market.
The days of broadcast television, programming bundles, and sitting in the living room with the family to watch the Wonderful World of Disney are nearly over and mostly forgotten. Studios and networks are looking to the world of streaming services and IP delivery systems and the exploding dominance of wireless devices as the main tool for information and entertainment in todays and tomorrows consumers.
IF this VMS device is ever released, it is probably the last thing you will see from Verizon in the wired market of programming services.
Not to add fuel to the fire but I'm pretty happy with the Internet Speeds, although I don't see the benefit of 150 meg download speed. The telephone works, just seems like since I switched I get more nonsense calls but the TV Service. OMG, the picture quality is good but the whole DVR situation is terrible. Fios is so far behind the 8 ball on this one. The MRDVR is nice but only a 2 tuner DVR? The Media Server promises so much but my biggest fear is how much VZ is going to charge for it. They forced folks to pay for the upgrade to the larger DVR. I wonder how much to upgrade to Media Server. For me, I can go to my local cable company and get a MRDVR along with 6 tuners for no additional charge. I hope VZ does right and gets this out soon. Will need to decide in 6 monthhs when my contract is up for renewal.
JohnCF, I don't see the relation between most of your arguments about the delay of the VMS1100.
The Vodaphone purchase is by the Verizon Wireless division and has no bearing on Verizon Fios business.
Yes, the FIOS rollout is now frozen but that doesn't mean that Verizon is stopping all research on improving it's current platform. Quite the contrary in fact. It sees the 6 Tuner DVR from DirecTV as definite competition from its ALSO very profitable broadband subscibers. Since the VMS1100 is already in the provisioning pipeline, why would they take a loss by NOT making it available to customers and thus, eating the R&D and licensing fees it has paid to Motorola?
Other cable operators maybe losing customers to cord cutting, but FIOS is GROWING.
http://www.fiercecable.com/story/verizon-adds-140k-fios-tv-subs-video-penetration-increases-386-q2-2013/2013-07-18
I understand your arguments but before you chime in on a product with the air of authority on the topic, you should do some research instead of reproducing industry talking points.
http://www.fiercecable.com/story/verizon-adds-140k-fios-tv-subs-video-penetration-increases-386-q2-2...
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1. The growth seen in FiOS subscribers is expected as most people rotate every two years between cable and satellite or other providers to get the discounts and new equipment current subscribers are not offered. The number of new subs for FiOS is limited by the fact that they have stopped laying fiber and have opted to expand wireless, which is much more profitable.
2. Where is the VMS1100? You claim it is in the pipeline. Provide your proof. Verizon originally announced this product was going to be available in the fall of LAST YEAR. Then they demo something in January of this year and then nothing. No official announcements, details or anything. Meanwhile, Dish Network, DirecTV, and Tivo have all had 4 or more tuners for several years now and 1TB or larger hard drives for recording, and, their IMG software is years ahead of Verizon.
Ceton has several products on the market that use Verizon's cablecard to record 4 to 6 channels at once and one product from Ceton offers whole house IPTV from that cablecard to any tablet, computer, or tv. Meanwhile, FiOS customers are still being given DVRs that use 160GB drives and severely limited recording options.
3. Why would Verizon take a loss? Because FiOS TV Programming is already a loss for Verizon. It serves as the loss leader to make TRIPLE PLAY packages appear desireable to those subs ready to try another provider. They could easily write off any losses, eliminate the traditional TV programming packages and DVRs and save millions, while expanding their instant streaming service they now provide with their Red Box agreement.
Will this happen overnite? Probably not. However, the VMS1100 is nowhere in sight and not even formally announced with advertising on tv, slick copy flyers, and emails. Based on Verizon's past deployment history, it could be 3 to 5 years before the VMS1100 gets to every sub with fiOS. By then, wireless devices and other smart devices will own the IP market with its 1,000s of streaming products.
Reproducing industry talking points? Are you saying the industry is saying the same thing I see clearly happening already? That's interesting.
I like the convenience of having all my services through Verizon, however, their cellular service is now the most expensive of all providers, their TV service comes with the most primitive DVR on the market, and they have stopped laying fiber indefinitely while moving strongly in the direction of wireless services and IP based programming.
I know at least a dozen families that live across the street from FiOS customers and have been told they cannot get FiOS service.
I know whereof I speak - and I hope I'm wrong but I have worked and lived in the technology world for over 30 years.
It's discouraging to me that no one from Verizon has jumped in here to give some update on the VMS1100.
We have been happy DirecTV customers for years but FiOS was installed here a year ago. (Thank heaven! We have no cable service option here so only had intermittent DSL before that.) DirecTV will give me a free Genie upgrade (2-year contract) but I see some advantage to the Verizon bundle (monthly price). But I would not switch to Verizon for anything less than a 6-tuner 1 Tb whole-house box.
Without some prospect of the VMS1100 I'll probably decide to pull the trigger on the DirecTV contract fairly soon.
I was hoping to see some update on this thread since the last predicted date was "September" and it's getting close to the end of the month...
On another topic mentioned here - odd about the "dozen families" in an area with FiOS who have been told they cannot get it. They are promoting it heavily here (RI) and installing homes daily from what I can see.
So I keep reading that Verizon Media Server is coming. Yet it is taking forever. Other cable comanys have 4 to 10 turner dvr platforms. Now that Cablevision just came out with the ability to record 10 shows. It seems that fios is already behind the times with the new VMS.
I am getting tired of hearing "soon" all the time. Anyone have some info on when VMS is coming? The pricing involved?
Anyone else tired of recording conflicts with just 2 turners?
http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2013-05/verizon-fios-media-server-launch/
Back at CES, we admired Verizon’s upcoming six-tuner IPTV Media Server (VMS) and thin clients. And while it appears “soon” is off the table, the company has put a stake in the ground at NAB for a September launch
Well it is September. So when?
Thanks
Read the last post on the other thread that was started. http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-TV-Technical-Assistance/When-will-Fios-have-a-New-Multi-more-then-2-Turner-DVR/td-p/513987/page/2
VMS 1100......Did hear from Fios Tech Solutions Dept. last week that a December launch date for this platform was listed. Have to wait and see. Like everyone else I like the newest technology available. Fios dropped the ball on this one. I did hear that the FCC is causing alot of the hold up with the release of this unit, something to do with whole home networking and the use of it.
I think Verizon shouild inform their employees of new inovations that they are working on, Most of the time when you call to ask about a new product, they have no idea what your talking about. How many times have you got the response, "you know more about it than I do", from a Verizon Rep?. Sad! The only reason I haven't swtiched to Tivo....you loose VOD. Tivo is far more advanced than Motorola products. If Verizon was smart, they would offer Tivo like Comcast does.
Have been a loyal Fios customer since 2008. Had Cox for many years before. Cox has had a 5 tuner whole home dvr out for about 2 years.We are in the age of high tech Smart TV"S.....we need the high tech equipment to go with it.They need to address the video quality of some of tthe channels. Showtime, Food Network, IFC and several others in regards to Macroblocking on these channels. Caused by Mpeg 4 to Mpeg 2 channel compression. These channels tend to checkerbord or break up into squares. AMC had a very bad Macroblocking issue last year but was fixed.
Lets hope for the best. Maybe Santa will bring us our VMS 1100 Media Server!!
http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/are-verizons-ma-moves-hindering-its-dvr-rollouts/2013-10-10
Saw this today:
http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-TV-Programming/Six-Tuner-DVR-In-March/m-p/637679#M21098
If any of it is at all true ... bye bye Verizon...waiting until March is not acceptable....and charging an arm and a leg is a non starter...
A few years ago doing a cost analysis between Comcast and FIOs - FIOs was much more economical - today they are about even and you get arguably more from Comcast...and Comcast has a nice TIVO integration....
Yeah I read that post and it's all claims with no links to any substantive evidence.
I really doubt Verizon wants to stay in the tv programming business and probably does not want to even keep it's wireline business either. Wireless is the lucrative business feeding the current generation of communications and social media connectivity. Every step and every lack of movement just solidifies my opinion in this matter.
Could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Will need official statements from Verizon and PR releases to believe otherwise.
O btw verizon fios is still rolling out new service areas in my area so you saying that they are not spending any money on new services you r wrong and i just talked to one of my friends who working for verizon fios tech he says they are currently testing the 6 tuner dvr by motorola right now should be out this year...
@bws2007 wrote: O btw verizon fios is still rolling out new service areas in my area so you saying that they are not spending any money on new services you r wrong and i just talked to one of my friends who working for verizon fios tech he says they are currently testing the 6 tuner dvr by motorola right now should be out this year...
As there is only 2 1/2 weeks left in the year and with Christmas and New Years in the middle of this I seriously doubt we will see the VMS solution available to us any time this year. We would be lucky to get it before March of 2014.
Turning on new service to areas that already have fiber is not expanding the business, that's just using what they already have.
Fact is they are not laying anymore fiber and have been exploring ways to sell off the landline business.
The 6 tuner dvr has NOT been anounced and there is no official flyer or any public advertising for it. This means we are at least 6 months away from anything happening and probably more.
IF they ever release this dvr, it will be rolled out over at least a year, to new customers first in limited areas, and then MAYBE existing customers well after that. Based on previous history with Verizon and their lack of desire to spend any money on FiOS that could cut their profits from cellular, I doubt you will see anything about this dvr before summer or fall next year and you won't be able to get one until 2015. By then, it will be way out of date and virtually useless with all the new tech coming out before then for streaming and home theater pc.
It doesn't matter who you talked to or where they work or what their position is. This is a publically traded company that is bound by requirements for how any action is taken and the paperwork required to be filed and the public announcements that have to be made and the time periods those requirements come with.
@JohnCF wrote: Turning on new service to areas that already have fiber is not expanding the business, that's just using what they already have.Fact is they are not laying anymore fiber and have been exploring ways to sell off the landline business. The 6 tuner dvr has NOT been anounced and there is no official flyer or any public advertising for it. This means we are at least 6 months away from anything happening and probably more...
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Not quite true. THey are still laying fiber to areas to new locations, just not to any for which they haven't previously made agreements to serve.
The 6 tuner was announced, just not an available date. Some dates were even being mentioned, but were delayed by what the FCC did. New dates are not announced but serveral people with contacts with Verizon have reported the training and Alpha testing that is currently occuring.
Those are sub-contractors laying that fiber on contracts already let and negotiated. No new contracts are pending nor will be unless corporate changes their minds.
A Press Release is not an announcement. That was coming on 3 years ago and still no advertising, no packages, no pricing, no roll-out dates, no markets, no nothing.
Links for the manuals -
http://www.verizon.com/cs/groups/public/documents/adacct/vms1100_install_ops_manual.pdf
http://www.verizon.com/cs/groups/public/documents/adacct/ipc1100_installation_manual.pdf
Are we getting closer to availability?
